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margieben · 07-01-2008, 07:38 AM

I need help translating to Spanish - This Agreement is entered into by and between...
Thank you!

SandraT · 07-01-2008, 10:00 AM

Hello margieben,

Este acuerdo es firmado en entre y

I'm no expert so, perhaps, there will be another option.

Goodnightmoon · 07-01-2008, 10:33 AM

We normally don't put two prepositons together son en entre just doesn't sound right.

Maybe it would be better to include the whole sentence if you want it to sound idiomatic in the target language, as you just don't build the sentences the same way in both languages.

Maybe something like "xxxx and xxxx firman el presente acuerdo" or "xxxxxx y xxxxx se comprometen por el presente acuerdo a...." could work but it's hard to tell without context.

SandraT · 07-01-2008, 10:44 AM

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We normally don't put two prepositons together son en entre just doesn't sound right.

Of course not. And if you read it all together it does not make sense...I just missed the ____________ between the prepositions. I thought it was clear for everyone.

Este acuerdo es firmado en _______________entre_____________ y_______...

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"xxxx and xxxx firman el presente acuerdo" or "xxxxxx y xxxxx se comprometen por el presente acuerdo a...." could work but it's hard to tell without context.

I agree but without context and being an agreement, I would not change the English format. I have read agreements/Letters of Intent and MOU with headings just like that in Spanish.

Goodnightmoon · 07-01-2008, 12:46 PM

Oh, I see! Then it's perfectly ok.

In any case I wouldn't use "este acuerdo es firmado" as it sounds too much as a literal translation. "Se firma este acuerdo" sounds a bit more idiomatic but maybe acuerdo is not even the most appropriate word for this. Context is everything!

SandraT · 07-01-2008, 01:53 PM

You're right. Without context we're at loss...hope is not CONTRATO because then, the legal intention changes completely.
margieben, if you're not comfortable with the response, why don't you try to post some more context?

Hebe · 07-01-2008, 01:53 PM

Hi friends . The style tha most lawyers would use in Venezuela is as follows:

"El presente acuerdo (contrato) se celebra (o se suscribe) entre ______ y ________ "
Hope it helps

salarmenmx · 09-05-2008, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by margieben

I need help translating to Spanish - This Agreement is entered into by and between...
Thank you!

Hola a todos!

Seguramente esta colaboraci�n ya es tard�a para la consulta original, pero espero que resulte de utilidad para consultas futuras.

De acuerdo con la legislaci�n mexicana:
- "Convenio" es el acuerdo de voluntades para crear, transmitir, modificar o extinguir derechos y obligaciones entre las partes, mientras que los

- "Contratos" son los convenios que CREAN O TRANSMITEN derechos y obligaciones.

En consecuencia, y en mi pr�ctica como traductor, acostumbro traducir "Contract" como "Contrato", y "Agreement" como "Convenio"

Saludos

In-House · 10-04-2008, 10:33 AM

Muy interesante tu aporte, Salarmenmx!
En Argentina, lo vi redactado con mayor frecuencia de la siguiente manera: "Celebran el presente convenio/acuerdo/contrato xxxx y xxxx".
Saludos!

mem286 · 10-04-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by salarmenmx

De acuerdo con la legislaci�n mexicana:
- "Convenio" es el acuerdo de voluntades para crear, transmitir, modificar o extinguir derechos y obligaciones entre las partes, mientras que los

- "Contratos" son los convenios que CREAN O TRANSMITEN derechos y obligaciones.

En consecuencia, y en mi pr�ctica como traductor, acostumbro traducir "Contract" como "Contrato", y "Agreement" como "Convenio"

Muy buena aclaraci�n! Es igual en Argentina.

Saludos!

07-01-2008, 07:38 AM	#1
margieben New Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	This Agreement I need help translating to Spanish - This Agreement is entered into by and between... Thank you!

07-01-2008, 10:00 AM	#2
SandraT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Havana,Cuba Posts: 831 Rep Power: 628	Hello margieben, Este acuerdo es firmado en entre y I'm no expert so, perhaps, there will be another option. __________________ _____________________________ [Have a nice day!!! ♥ Sandra T ♥

07-01-2008, 10:33 AM	#3
Goodnightmoon Forum User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 63 Rep Power: 234	We normally don't put two prepositons together son en entre just doesn't sound right. Maybe it would be better to include the whole sentence if you want it to sound idiomatic in the target language, as you just don't build the sentences the same way in both languages. Maybe something like "xxxx and xxxx firman el presente acuerdo" or "xxxxxx y xxxxx se comprometen por el presente acuerdo a...." could work but it's hard to tell without context. __________________ Visto el panorama... va a ser que no.

07-01-2008, 12:46 PM	#5
Goodnightmoon Forum User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 63 Rep Power: 234	Oh, I see! Then it's perfectly ok. In any case I wouldn't use "este acuerdo es firmado" as it sounds too much as a literal translation. "Se firma este acuerdo" sounds a bit more idiomatic but maybe acuerdo is not even the most appropriate word for this. Context is everything! __________________ Visto el panorama... va a ser que no.

07-01-2008, 01:53 PM	#6
SandraT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Havana,Cuba Posts: 831 Rep Power: 628	You're right. Without context we're at loss...hope is not CONTRATO because then, the legal intention changes completely. margieben, if you're not comfortable with the response, why don't you try to post some more context? __________________ _____________________________ [Have a nice day!!! ♥ Sandra T ♥

07-01-2008, 01:53 PM	#7
Hebe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Caracas- Venezuela Posts: 822 Rep Power: 1552	Hi friends . The style tha most lawyers would use in Venezuela is as follows: "El presente acuerdo (contrato) se celebra (o se suscribe) entre ______ y ________ " Hope it helps __________________ Hebe ♥ ♫ "*To him whose elastic and vigorous thought keeps pace with the sun, the day is a perpetual morning". Henry David Thrreau"* <O</O <O</O

10-04-2008, 10:33 AM	#9
In-House Contributing User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 170 Rep Power: 100	Re: This Agreement Muy interesante tu aporte, Salarmenmx! En Argentina, lo vi redactado con mayor frecuencia de la siguiente manera: "Celebran el presente convenio/acuerdo/contrato xxxx y xxxx". Saludos!

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