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    I was studying voseo on the internet trying to learn a little Spanish my beautiful Mexican wife doesn't know (just to tease her) and I came across a website with pronunciation. The vos pronunciations were as I expected but when the reader pronounced vos llamás, the "ll" was pronounced as "sh". Does anyone know if this is specific to a region. We have a friend from Honduras who uses voseo but pronounces the "ll" the way I was taught in school (like an "y"). Any ideas?


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    AS far as I know, Argentinians pronounce the ll as sh.

    In Spain the ll is pronounced, although it varies a little from place to place, like the y.
    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


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    Thanks Exx,

    By the way, why do you use that wretched French quote. Le Ménagier should have been hung by his dangling participles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Detective
    By the way, why do you use that wretched French quote. Le Ménagier should have been hung by his dangling participles.

    Joel


    I think everybody agrees on this point!

    I think I will have a go at it and change it....
    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


    El Corán (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Alá a Maomé en el siglo VI)


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    OK, done!!
    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


    El Corán (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Alá a Maomé en el siglo VI)


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    Quote Originally Posted by exxcéntrica
    AS far as I know, Argentinians pronounce the ll as sh.

    In Spain the ll is pronounced, although it varies a little from place to place, like the y.
    That's correct my friend. In Argentina we pronounce "y" as "Sh" and "LL" as "sh" as well

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    Actually, I think some regions of Argentina use this pronunciation.
    Generally the nothern regions pronouce a much softer "ll" and "y", and it ends up sounding like "i", like "iuvia", "io", etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veronica
    Actually, I think some regions of Argentina use this pronunciation.
    Generally the nothern regions pronouce a much softer "ll" and "y", and it ends up sounding like "i", like "iuvia", "io", etc.
    Oh, how interesting. I thought the "ll" was pronounced like the "sh" all over Argentina.
    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


    El Corán (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Alá a Maomé en el siglo VI)


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    Thus spake Zarathustra!

    Mucho mejor.

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    I used to think Spanish was wonderfully easy because, unlike English, every letter has only one pronunciation. Little did I know. Thank you all for the replies.

    Joel
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