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    Hi! it's been a while since I last greeted the members of the forum so I'll say hi again.


    I would like to know your views regarding the concept of a teacher and who

    teaches whom on any given subject.

    MY EYES APPLAUDED SILENTLY

    WITH A JOY ASSURED BY SIGHT

    SEEING THE TEACHER THAT WAS IN ME

    ENTERING KNOWLEDGE

    WITH A FIRM AND LOVING MIGHT

    First let me mention that in Puerto Rico,teacher is generally translated as

    maestro(a) or profesor(a). I presume that holds true for most hispanic

    cultures. the problem I have is that maestro can be translated as master.

    Ah, the predicaments of translation!

    Now I will get to the chase! (Al grano dirán algunos de ustedes.) If one

    listens to the teacher, one is accepting the information or giving oneself

    permission to learn. If one doe not then whatever knowledge delivered

    is lost.

    So who teaches whom? The person who listens thereby controlling

    the information he or she receives or the teacher who sends out the

    information whether or not the person is absorbing the information.

    Obviously, the lecturer at one time was the student.

    Most cultures give the impression that the teacher is " the one in front of

    the class ".Your thoughts, MAESTROS.


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    I would not confuse to teach (enseñar) with to learn (aprender).

    As an instructor in my field (law enforcement) it is common for trainees to later say a concept or tactic was not taught when in fact it was taught and he or she just did not learn it.

    Although as the instructor I take responsibility for ensuring my trainees can repeat the material (this is why we teachers test) I cannot guarentee they will retain it (i.e. it was truely learned). So to answer your question the teacher teaches and the student learns.

    I must add thiough that I always learn when I instruct so in this sense the roles do reverse.

    Joel
    "El verdadero objectivo de la vida no es el destino final, si no disfrutar el camino."

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Detective
    I must add thiough that I always learn when I instruct so in this sense the roles do reverse. Joel
    I agree very much with that.
    I am not a teacher by profession, but have taught English and French on several occasions, and each time I thought it was a terrific way to amass knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Detective
    I would not confuse to teach (enseñar) with to learn (aprender).
    Well said, Detective.

    As an instructor in my field (law enforcement) it is common for trainees to later say a concept or tactic was not taught when in fact it was taught and he or she just did not learn it.
    Doesn't that sound familiar.....

    Students and pupils always agree on that, never their fault for not listening, no sire bob, never ever.

    I am a teacher and for me there is no doubt: I pass information onto my pupils, they can do with it what they wish , of course, but my "place" is clear.

    The teacher gives information, the student receives, different story altogether.
    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


    El Corán (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Alá a Maomé en el siglo VI)


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    Greetings to all. The comments made by Joel and EXXENTRICA are valid

    because they reflect the concepts our cultures teach. There is this one

    small problem with the comment made by Joel concerning the following:

    "The teacher teaches and the student learns" According to Merriam-

    Webster,one definition of the word learn is to teach. USAGE - Learn in

    the sense of "teach" dates from the 13th century and was standard until

    at least the early 19th....

    I also agree with Exx on the giving and receiving of information but you

    can also get information from a book. Does that make a book a teacher?

    But,I am talking about teaching which apparently was the same as

    learning until someone changed the rules.

    SALUDOS
    Last edited by Leslie M; 07-15-2008 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leslie M
    Greetings to all. The comments made by Joel and EXXENTRICA are valid

    because they reflect the concepts our cultures teach. There is this one

    small problem with the comment made by Joel concerning the following:

    "The teacher teaches and the student learns" According to Merriam-

    Webster,one definition of the word learn is to teach. USAGE - Learn in

    the sense of "teach" dates from the 13th century and was standard until

    at least the early 19th....

    I also agree with Exx on the giving and receiving of information but you

    can also get information from a book. Does that make a book a teacher?

    But,I am talking about teaching which apparently was the same as

    learning until someone changed the rules.

    SALUDOS
    Hi Leslie,
    I think there's a fine line between teaching and learning (just like there's a fine line between love and hate ).
    I feel that no matter how old we are, we always learn something new. I think the only difference is age and skill. A "teacher" is usually older, a person who had 'been there, done that', though that is not the case all the time. Myself, I've "taught" older people before, but then that comes down to knowledge and skill. I knew (had "learned") something they hadn't. But then again, I have been 'taught' things by much younger people (my kids are my teachers at times! ).
    My overall thought on this philosophical topic is.....throughout our lives we are teachers AND students. Granted at times money is exchanged to do either. But overall we are never too young or old to teach or be taught.

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