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Beyond all discussions about good and evil... is this issue about romances.
I have become a huge fan of Game of Thrones. And this question is the 'hidden' first character. All 'bad' romances are treated: brother and sister, women 'delivered' to wealthy husbands and so on and so forth.
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Some time ago, I read a great post in Spanish about 'bad' words.
This is the link:
Los sentidos de una buena palabra
This post was translated into English.
This is the link:
The Meanings of a Good Word
When you talk about Game of Thrones, you mean the book or the series? Maybe I'm being an evangelist literature above video, but in the book many times one can even know the motives of the characters in certain situation (love Cercei for their children, the desire to recover the kingdom of Daenerys Storm , plans Thyrion, the machinations of Varys the Spider, etc) are interesting and often see things from your point of view ...
Reading a book allows the reader to go over one idea once and again, checking every possible detail. It takes time to read a book. Sometimes we can just read a couple of chapters a month.
A movie or a TV series gives color and movement to that idea, adding the effect of body language in dialogues. The main idea is conveyed by the end of the movie or the chapter in the TV series.
I am fond of both, of course.
We're still listening to the well-known:
"Because I'm bad, I'm bad, come on, you know I'm bad, I'm bad, you know it".
And the more recent hit:
"You know that I want you, and you know that I need you, I want it bad, your bad romance".
And while listening to these hits, we watch Game of Thrones. Hey, wait! This fiction story does not take place in the XX century! Or the XXI!
Let's check!
Game of Thrones is inspired in the European history.
- The English Wars of the Roses (XV century) between the Houses of Lancaster and York inspired the Houses of Lannister and Stark.
- High Medieval Western Europe inspired Westeros.
- Isabella (XIV century), the "she-wolf of France", inspired the scheming Cersei.
- Hadrian's Wall inspired the Great Wall.
- The legend of Atlantis inspired ancient Valyria.
- Byzantine Greek fire inspired the wildfire.
- The Mongol hordes inspired the Dothraki.
- The Icelandic sagas of the Viking Age inspired the Ironborn.
This is the reason why this fiction story seems so credible.
Going back to our topic, all these events happened several centuries ago! None of them is recent or present. Still this question of the 'bad' romances stays today.
define bad romance, which is the exact idea of this sentence, because I do not understand ..
Good point!
According to the Urban Dictionary, a 'bad' romance is a relationship that you know is bad for you but can't help it: it may involve physical abuse and/or emotional straining.
It's actually a broad phrase that could apply to any romance that does not end happily or that causes intentional pain to the participants or to others.
In some 'bad' romances, the couple has a hidden relationship because nobody approves their being together.
As an example, let’s take the character of Cersei Lannister!
The info below is in the complete website Game of Thrones – Wiki.
Cersei Lannister is one of the major characters in the first three seasons. Oficially, she is the widow of King Robert Baratheon and Queen Regent of the Seven Kingdoms.
Her story: Cersei Lannister is the only daughter of Joanna Lannister and Lord Tywin Lannister, the head of House Lannister and the richest man in the Seven Kingdoms. She has a twin brother, Jaime Lannister, and a younger brother, Tyrion Lannister.
After giving birth to Tyrion, her mother died (Cersei and her twin brother were only four years old). During her childhood and youth, her father was almost always away from home serving as Hand of the King at the capital. Cersei began an incestuous relationship with her twin brother in her youth which has continued despite her marriage. Cersei has had other sexual partners but Jaime has always remained faithful to her.
She is the wife of Robert Baratheon, a political marriage Robert agreed to in thanks for her father’s late switching of sides in the civil war which brought him to power. She has three children (Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen): although Cersei claims that they are all Robert’s, they are all actually illegitimate as the result of her unofficial relationship with her twin brother.
other serious toxic romance existing in the 1st book, between Joffrey Lannister and Sansa Stark, that despite all the signs of a sociopath behavior, she still dazzled by their power and physical appearance .... and then she suffered first hand their 'hospitality'
I must admit after reading the posts. Game of Thrones sounds interesting. I admit I watched a few episodes but couldn't get into it. Maybe if I catch from the very beginning it will be different. I think I'll try that. :)
if you enjoy the series, you will do only very short 3 seasons are, you also recomiendos books .... they are only 5, for now, George R. pq R. Martin (the author) it is taking too much with the next 2 .... takes more than a year overdue with 6 and still has no firm date .... but they are longer and more interesting ...
danield: Were you a fan before the TV Series? Or did you get into the books afterward?
I prefer the books, the usual case, a function of momentum and rhythm required television make adjustments that remove certain parts of the book such as pensamietos of the protagonists, etc ... therefore prefer books, this series anque quite faithfully reflected the author is one of the causes for the TV series adaptation
Aaaah yes. I agree. Being an avid reader myself. I prefer the books to the movies. The detail and emotion that a great book offers is no comparison. I often get upset when they change the story lines for the film/tv versions. I'm not okay with that. I feel if you are going to make a movie based on the book...keep it real.
Another example, then, of a ‘bad’ romance.
Joffrey is Cersei’s eldest son. When King Robert Baratheon died, Cersei ‘placed’ Joffrey on the Iron Throne under the false claim that he is a legitimate son from her marriage and she becomes the Queen Regent.
Joffrey is markedly sadistic, a situation that Cersei resents deeply: in Season 2, Cersei confesses to her younger brother, Tyrion, that she feels that Joffrey’s viciousness might be the price she pays for her sin of ****** with Jaime. To comfort her, Tyrion reminds her that her other children are gentle: balanced words amidst chaos and war. What is Tyrion’s story?
Tyrion Lannister is the youngest son of Lord Tywin Lannister. He is a dwarf, a situation that causes him problems and persecution. If he had been born in a poor family, he would have been left out in the woods to die. Since he was born in a powerful noble family, he was raised in wealth and education.
When Tyrion was 16, he met a wheelwright’s daughter on the road, apparently the victim of an attempted rape. In fact, his brother Jaime organized the incident with this woman (a prostitute) so that his dwarf brother could be happy. Ignoring the truth, Tyrion and this woman become lovers and married secretly (the woman was way underneath Tyrion’s social status). For a short time, they lived happily as husband and wife until Lord Tywin learned about this marriage. To teach his youngest son, Tywin gave Tyrion’s wife a silver coin for each of his men she had *** with and forced Tyrion to watch. By the end of the ‘lesson’, the woman had so many silver coins that they were running out of her hands onto the ground.
From that moment on, Tyrion has had a most arid relationship with his father. He tends to overindulge in food, drink and *** with prostitutes in part to compensate for the rotten treatment he’s suffered most of his life. Tyrion is shown to be as intelligent as his father, if not more so. This plus his excellent education help make up for this dwarfism. He is also able to 'read' people as easy as he does books.
For the character of Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones, the actor Peter Dinklage was awarded an Emmy as Best Drama Supporting Actor 2011 and a Golden Globe as Best TV Supporting Actor 2012.
Not if you have noticed that all the houses are of poor value Lannister family until now .... there are also other examples, the first thing that comes to mind is that of Ramsay Snow or as he calls himself later Ramsay Bolton, is a product of rape and has a cruel and savage character , delighting in torturing others. He favored the old Bolton custom of flaying their enemies. Though not very smart , is manipulative and enjoys openly sick and abusive , such as girls undressing and release them in the woods of Dreadfort practices , then catch them with a game of wild bitches Girls nicknamed the Bastard . After raping her , gives her a quick death to the girls that are difficult to hunt , then skin them . Like to name their dogs with the names of the women he most enjoyed , " honoring them ." Women who were easy to hunt are raped and skinned alive . The skins girls are carried Dreadfort and bodies as trophies are given to dogs as food.
more information Ramsay Snow - A Wiki of Ice and Fire
The main topic in the book/TV series is war and its evil consequences.
War against everybody. War against neighbours, war inside families, war, always war, a never-ending war. And how deep down every man can fall in war, in every single aspect of his personality.
I think it is the power, which is done by obtaining and maintaining and take him by force
Well, well, well, we've reached the key of the question:
Game (war) of Thrones (power)
Well, well, well, indeed. Very nice!
Any news about the fourth season?
Thank for sharing this link!
Whose secrets? The Queen's? Can't wait!
Read the saga is awesome... but incomplete
Jejeje, the TV season surprises us with this anticipation and expectation!!
Books are great, too, especially if my expectation can't wait that much!
Thank you for the tip!
The whole kingdom is at stake now!!!
'The winter is coming'
3 dragons plus the Invencible army are coming!
I'll read the book now, thanks for the tip! Then I will compare!
Summary of the previous 3 seasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5XsylGuHjo
¡Qué buen dato para todos los fans que se sumen en este momento!