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Hi guys,
Its Super Tuesday! time to get out and vote on your party representative....(if you are from the states, of course.) For those of you out there, or if you follow US politics, who would you like to see win, either today in the primaries or the whole thing? you can tell by the thread name im a democrat....but any opinion is welcome!
Also, I am from Massachusetts. I am interested to see who wins my state tonight....Clinton was predicted to win Mass, but Obama is now backed by the Kennedy's, and in Mass, that is a huge deal. atleast i can rest easy we wont be republican!:p
Personally I would vote for Obama. He is young and with new ideas. The black society deserves a representative.
I dislike Hillary intensely. She is the most ambitious person on earth. And all those false tears....:mad:
update: Clinton won my state, Ombama won my town. its really close!!!:p
Let´s do a poll :)
we are 50/50 now! :cool:
These elections will definitely be interesting and very new...both candidates could bring a lot to the table but I am rooting for Obama!
Not any more!! Obama has caught up!! He seems to be actually winning. All her tears......probably had the wrong effect!! Good for the Americans to see through her foul play!Quote:
Originally Posted by RodrigoDG
It would be interesting to find out which one of them has better plans towards strengthening US/Latin America relations.
Regards !!!
I wouldn't bank on Hillary for that Hebe. I am slightly distrustful of presidential super-couples, especially when it comes Bill Clinton! I don't think he did much to strenghten US/Latin American relations, but I suppose it depends on what angle you look at it from. :p
Although I have no vote in this electoral contest, I completely agree with you Sara. Yet, I must confess that I would like to see a woman (hopefully a sensitive, skilled and highly knowledgeable one) taking over the US Presidential seat one day
Kind regards !!:)
Obama is picking up a lot of steam!!!!!!!!!!! its getting interesting....:eek:
I am hearing good things about him. I also like his wife's attitude in the campaigne, sincere, but respectful and at a certain distance. I do hope, if he is elected, that she is not going to turn out like Hillary.
I am no foreign policy expert by any means, but Bill Clinton certainly seems to have done a lot to strengthen the relationship between the US and countries south of the United States. The previous century had been defined by an ever-expanding hegemony and dominance of the United States' influence over its hemisphere neighbors. It's worth remembering the CIA-backed overthrows throughout Central America and Brazil, Chile, etc. After all of that time, which includes a good amount of the Reagan administration and Bush, Sr. (who was the head of the CIA when the CIA-backed coups were taking place!!!!), Clinton actively worked towards repairing the trust gap between the US and its neighbors to the south. I have eard people say nothing but respectful and positive things abut Bill Clinton in my travels throughout South America. I also haven't seen anything that would give me the idea that Hillary would approach things differently...
One interesting thing for me is that Hillary is basically the female version of Bill in many aspects; she is single-minded about attaining as much power and influence as possible and will step on anyone, say anything, compromise herself, etc. to acheive it. However, Bill is looked on favorably (well, his public perception seems to have taken a nosedive in recent weeks) while she is very much reviled, even within her own party. My question is, is it because she's a woman? I don't know if it is, but there's a powerful argument to be made that the preception of women in power is a tight rope to walk...
I follow what's going on in the States with great interest, above all the Obama-Clinton's race... I think that's a very important time for this country waking up, hopefully people wont let go this great opportunity! To bad they (a woman and a black candidate) get there at the same time! The best thing for me would be to have both these candidates, an "afroamerican woman president"! Good luck!
Mathias -
If that meant Condoleezza Rice in the White House, I could not support that...Carol Moseley-Braun (another Illinois Senator!!!) had ever been able to run, that would have been something I could support.
[quote=ScottJ]I am no foreign policy expert by any means, but Bill Clinton certainly seems to have done a lot to strengthen the relationship between the US and countries south of the United States."
Check out "Plan Colombia" and the Clinton administration Scott...he may have strengthened political ties between the U.S. and Colombia but at what cost to the people? While his intentions may have been positive, the execution of the plan destroyed a lot of lives.
I like Obama's wife's attitude. She is firm, but discrete and "in her place". Hillary never was. Why not say it : she bore with her husband's lies and unfaithfulness because she was reaching higher. Seldom have I seen such a calculating woman. Calculating and cold like a fish. Ah...and her tears (again!!!) haven't fooled anybody this time!!
I think this young man is amazing, strong, fresh in his thoughts, nice family man, good and strong handshake, natural, a fighter.
I saw him on the Jay Leno show. No doubt the best.
I have always disliked ambitious and calculating people, male or female alike, intensely. http://www.notesfromspain.com/forums...milies/mad.gifShe did what she did when her husband was in charge, because her goals were others than a happy marriage. I agree with you, she gives the idea that she would sell her mother, if she had to to achieve her aim.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottJ
The image she has in Europe, I believe, is that of a calculating , intelligent and extremely ambitious woman. I think even though at first her first tears convinced people she also had a "human" side...her second public tears gave her away! There was a commenter on Leno the other day who mentioned: "Ok, so she has been trying to convince us that she had more testosterone than any of her opponents and suddenly she is crying her eyes out.http://www.notesfromspain.com/forums...s/confused.gif" I think her adviser did her no good! I have no doubt that she cried crocodile tears.
Scott,
May be I should have added "democrate", but you did understand I was talking about these two candidates, who are democrate, right? Although sometimes we could wonder... : The best thing for me would be to have both these candidates, an "afroamerican woman president"!
A "democrate afroamerican woman president"
Does it have to be between those two? Even though he's a Republican, McCain seems a pretty solid candidate. He would definitely help Colombia with the Farc problem and would keep Chavez on a short leash as well.
(un poco mano dura no viene mal, como decimos en Argentina)
What do you think?
I am very impressed by Mc Caines background. And I agree, any help with the FARC is a plus!
Personally, I am apolitical. I despise politicians no matter what party they belong to.
However, I know that somebody has to win so I would prefer McCain because of his age, experience and background.
I don't know much about Barrack Obama but I prefer him over Hillary Clinton. I agree with exxecentric, Clinton is phony, overly-ambitious and a thoroughly dislikeable person.
PLEASE NO McCAIN!!! We need a real change in the US, one that can only come from switching parties. The war, the economy, US relations with the rest of the world....none of this will improve with another republican. (personal opinion)
You are probably right, emily. I do find Mc Cain rather old. I admire his war record and his strength, but on the other hand, I think any country needs a change.
I congratulate the Americans though on their not repeating a candidate once he has failed to achieve the presidency. We have just celebrated our national elections and again Rajoy(conservative) who went for the presidency for the second time, failed to achieve anything and again the socialist party has won. I think this is outrageous. How often does a person have to fail , to stand back and let others get to the front??
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Originally Posted by mvictoria
Un poco de mando dura, alguna otra invasión a algún otro país, matamos otro millón de civiles.... a después nos quejamos de q mueren 4.000 ó 5.000 de los nuestros, y no entendemos por qué hay gente q está dispuesta a morir en un atentado contra US... Creo q esta claro lo q pienso... :)
100% Agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by emilyb
Has anybody seen Hillary on The Tonight Show? She was very "warm" and has changed from being and ice-cold fish to a warm and warmhearted woman. She was funny and witty and campaigning intelligently.
I don't know,....just strategy?
I didn't see her on the Tonight Show, but I did see her on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart and she was laughing and making jokes even about touchy subjects. The Clintons are charming people; they know how to interact and how to appeal to people...she's turning on the good stuff when she needs it, though she has no chance right now. The most offensive to me was when she talked about Obama as potentially being her vice-president...huh?
She still has a chance, mathematically nobody could get the necessary delegates, and she has more super delegates than Obama...Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottJ
By the way, I like Obama as Vice President.
http://us.f831.mail.yahoo.com/ya/dow...a&head=b&Idx=9
Yeah, I really want this person as my president!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :D