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What does con la misma piedra mean? Is this an idiomatic expression?
Is it like the English idiom, "to kill two birds with one stone" which means to accomplish two things simultaneously through the same effort?
EX: "I am going to New York to do some work and I also have a friend who lives there and I owe him a visit so I will be able to kill two birds with one stone."
Hi Vicente!
I believe the expression for that would be "matar dos pájaros de un tiro". In what context did you see "con la misma piedra"? Let's see what the others think! :p
-Sara
Grácias Sara. Pues no tengo el context. Hace várias veces que he escuchado la frase en una(s) canción pero no la comprendí bien.:o De verdad, creía que era una expresión.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarab
¿Es común la expresión "matar dos pájoros de un tiro"?
Please correct my Spanish errors. Gracias:)
Hi Vicente,
"con la misma piedra" has a different meaning. it can be used in a context like
"me pagaste con la misma piedra"
I don't really know the equivalent expression but the literal translation would be to pay back with the same stone.
The meaning of this phrase in Spanish: someone did something to you (usually not a good thing) and you do the very same thing to that person. This is not a good explanation, really...I guess I need a coffee!!!:confused:
I wonder if that would be the same as "what goes around comes around" in English? What do you think Sandra? Of course...after your coffee break ;)
Yes, that would be an equivalent Sara but I think there is another one for this.:confused: no coffee yet...LOL
Are you thinking of PAYBACK Sandra? And there is "Tit for Tat".Quote:
Originally Posted by SandraT
You know what, Vicente? I just remembered this song by Julio Iglesias that goes "...tropecé de nuevo con la misma piedra..." and you were previously referring to a song.
In this case it means he made the same mistake twice. I think in this song he refers to falling in love with a person that didn't deserve his love or didn't love him or abandoned him...and then doing it again...poor guy!
And about tit for tat, yes.
this for that: phrase used when someone pays back one wrong or injury with another
That's it Sandra! Julio's song is the one that I heard recently. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SandraT
I still don't quite know how it would be used though. He sang "I came up against (or ran into) the same rock again". Is piedra slang for problem o algo asi?
Hi Vicente and Sandy. I think this part of the song means "I made the same mistake (or felt for the same trick) twice (or once again) "
Hope it helps
Sorrry !! did not finish reading Sandra´s posting. She had already explained it all brilliantly :)
I don't think we have an exact expression in English but it would be something like "tripping twice over the same stone" or "being twice a fool", something along those lines. Sandra and Hebe explained it perfectly!!! Hope it helps!Quote:
Originally Posted by vicente
[quote=sarab ]it would be something like "tripping twice over the same stone" or "being twice a fool", quote]
That's right Sara In fact the words of the song goes somthing like " I tripped over the same stone and with the same foot" (just imagine the pain :(
Best regards
Yes, you could say so. He is using the word to say he made the same mistake. Just like Hebe saidQuote:
"I came up against (or ran into) the same rock again". Is piedra slang for problem o algo asi?
"...tropecé de nuevo y con la misma piedraQuote:
I tripped over the same stone and with the same foot" (just imagine the pain :(
en cuestión de amores nunca he de ganar
porque es bien sabido que el que amor entrega
de cualquier manera tiene que llorar..."
I tripped over the same stone
in love matters I will never win
for it's known that if you give love
you will anyway be hurt (or cry)
I'm sure my translation can be improved but at least you understood. Julio Iglesias was widely popular for these types of songs. He loves to sing about love and suffering...;) just like many others!!!
Hola Vicente,
En Argentina, la expresión es matar dos pájaros de un tiro, que significa lo que vos mencionas: tener la ventaja de hacer dos cosas al mismo tiempo.
"Con la misma piedra" no se el contexto pero si de frases idiomáticas se trata, podría ser , tropezar con la misma piedra, que significa, cometer el mismo error una y otra vez.
Saludos DIEGO
Gracias a todos!! Ahora entiendo que signífica "con la misma piedra".:)Quote:
Originally Posted by diegonel
Entonces, a mi, parece que para usar con la misma piedra hay que usar el verbo tropezar...por lo menos en el contexto de la canción de Julio.
Sí, Vicente... correcto. Es una expresión que se usa con el verbo tropezar... y la canción de Julio Iglesias es perfecta para ejemplificarlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by vicente
Te cuento de otra expresión muy usada (al menos por acá) a través de un ejemplo: "No voy a ser tan tonta de meter las manos en el ventilador dos veces" (I'm not that silly as to put my hands in the fan twice)... no voy a cometer el mismo error dos veces... Alguien alguna vez escuchó esta expresión?
Ah Y me acordé de un refrán popular: "El que se quema con leche, ve una vaca y llora"... ¿Tiene su equivalente en Inglés?