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No encuentro como se dice CHAUCHA en ingles........alguno sabe?
Si hacen click en la palabra pueden ver la foto, creo que en otros paises de habla hispana se denomina de otra forma, tambien pueden colaborar con los diferentes significados segun cada pais........
Graciassss!!!
Aproposito de esta verdura, mi mama prepara una ensalada de chaucha, papa y huevo que es riquisima!!! :)
Hola PIM!
Creo que es "French bean". En portugués es "ervilha".
Besitos!
Un chaucha es como esta foto o como esta foto?
en estados unidos se dice "green bean" por la verdura en el primer foto y se dice "sweet pea" o "pea" por el segundo.
Point well taken! :) Do not get mixed-up with the Black Eyed Peas. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by geegollygosh
I agree with geegollygosh 100%: as a native Argentinean, I believe that PIM is talking about green beans which are also called judías verdes in some other Spanish speaking countries.
En mi región (en México), a los green beans los conocemos como ejotes, mientras que a los green peas (foto de PIM) les llamamos chícharos.
Saludos,
Xóchitl
Ahora si que estoy confundida! Siempre tuve en claro que ambas fotos (by geegollygosh) eran consideradas chauchas. Pero ahora no entiendo la diferencia?!
Como puedo darme cuenta en un texto a cual de las dos esta haciendo referencia?¿
Hola PIM:
Los que aparecen en la primera foto de geegollygosh son una especie de vaina delgada que se puede cocinar en tamaño normal, o se corta en trocitos. A esa especie la llamamos ejote. Mientras que a la especie de la segunda foto la llamamos chícharo en vaina o vaina de chícharo. Esta vaina se abre, se le sacan los chícharos, y la vaina se desecha.
Espero haber despejado tu duda...
Xóchitl
The "chaucha" in PIM's foto is a "green pea" very similar to a smaller "sweet pea". Me gustan!
Las de la foto de PIM se llaman green peas en Am. Eng. (también baby peas o spring peas si son muy tiernas) y garden peas o English peas en Brit. Eng. y petit pois en Fr.
Las pequeñas que se comen dentro de la cáscara (vaina) se llaman snow peas.
Sweet pea es una mata con flores.
True. The "chaucha" in PIM's foto is commonly called a "green pea" in the US. They are also called sweet peas, garden peas and English peas in the US and the younger ones are baby peas, spring peas or sweet peas. They can all be called sweet peas. It depends on the region of the country.
They are not snow peas. Snow peas or sugar peas are flat and do not develope into the round size of a sweet pea.
Geegollygosh's post was absolutely correct.
Hola Vicente
Agregue una foto de unas snow peas para evitar confusiones. Nunca dije que las de la foto de PIM eran snow peas, solamente quise hacer referencia a una variedad más pequeña a manera de información adicional.Quote:
They are not snow peas. Snow peas or sugar peas are flat and do not develope into the round size of a sweet pea.
Por cierto que sugar peas or sugar snap peas no son iguales a las snow peas pues constituyen otra variedad que no son tan planas como las snow peas pero tampoco tan redondas como las green peas.
Sugar snap peas are a cross between snow and English peas...
Snap peas, also known as sugarsnap peas,... differ from snow peas in that their pods are round as opposed to flat.
Ciertamente sweet peas es muy común, aunque resulta curioso que al hacer la búsqueda en Google siempre aparezca la mata sweet pea y no las de la foto de PIM.
Saludos,
Es increible la variedad de chauchas que estoy descubriendo con cada post! Creo que a medida que contestan estoy un poco mas mareada! ..............
This is definitely a "green pea" or "garden pea"
Here in Argentina I would call that "una arveja"
and for me chaucha would be "green bean" or "runner bean"
What a bean muddle!
"Ciertamente sweet peas es muy común, aunque resulta curioso que al hacer la búsqueda en Google siempre aparezca la mata sweet pea y no las de la foto de PIM."
Not everything can be found in dictionaries or on the internet. Sometimes you have to rely on actual humans to tell you. :)
Here's what a sugar or snow pea looks like:
Dwf Gray Sugar Pea Seeds and Plants, Vegetable Seeds at Burpee.com=
Here are sweet peas, green peas and garden peas...all the same thing.
http://www.batchelors.ie/images/prod_peas_garden.jpg
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...d72e1bed819053
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbn...81686bf00b0e1a
These same little peas are also known by other other names, depending on the region of the US or the company that cans them or the way they are prepared.
Vicente
Creo que no captaste la intención de mi comentario a pesar de lo directo que es. Parafraseo entonces, dije que me llamaba la atención el hecho de que a pesar de lo común que es la frase sweet peas, al hacer la búsqueda en imágenes Google lo que aparece es la mata y no por ejemplo las latas de sweet peas.Quote:
"Ciertamente sweet peas es muy común, aunque resulta curioso que al hacer la búsqueda en Google siempre aparezca la mata sweet pea y no las de la foto de PIM."
Not everything can be found in dictionaries or on the internet. Sometimes you have to rely on actual humans to tell you.
Estoy en desacuerdo contigo con respecto a la Internet pues creo que sí se consigue de todo.
Es cierto que a veces tenemos que tomar la palabra de humanos sobretodo como es el caso de PIM que es quien tiene la duda. Por mi parte, en este caso confío en mi propio conocimiento pues he vivido tanto en los EEUU como en GB y en ambos he tenido que ir a supermercado a comprar Pisum sativum, o sea, Guisantes verdes, Guisante, Arveja, Arvejas, Chícharo, Chícharos.
Amigos foristas, Green - Garden y Sweet peas son las que conozco como arvejas, las cuales claramente no soy chauchas.
Al comentario de en Internet se encuentra de todo, es totalmente cierto, se encuentra lo que esta bien y lo que no esta, por este motivo es que en el foro podemos hacer consultas para sacarnos de la duda de lo que previamente buscamos en internet.
Gracias Cotty por considerarme humano, a veces no lo parezco pero lo soy! jajaj:)
Con tanta chaucha y arvejas dando vueltas me parece que en estas fiestas voy a preparar una ensalada para recibir a los invitados!
Querida PIM
Sabes que me encantan tus preguntas pues siempe generan intercambios interesantes ya sea en temas culturales o generales :)
Por lo que deduzco las chauchas son lo que en Col. le dicen habichuelas y en Vz. le decimos vainitas y en Ing. green beans, string beans, French beans. El problema está en que en tu pregunta inicial, colocaste una foto de arvejas y no de vainitas, así que yo contesté en base a la foto y no al nombre de chaucha pues no significa nada para mí.Quote:
Amigos foristas, Green - Garden y Sweet peas son las que conozco como arvejas, las cuales claramente no soy chauchas.
Claro que lo pareces y además un ser humano con variados intereses. Debe ser muy divertido irse a tomar un café contigo. Pero el comentario no iba dirigido a ti que eras la OP sino a Vicente pues él dijo:Quote:
Gracias Cotty por considerarme humano, a veces no lo parezco pero lo soy! jajaj:)
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Not everything can be found in dictionaries or on the internet. Sometimes you have to rely on actual humans to tell you.
Lo importante es que creo que ya saliste de tus dudas léxicas!!!
:)
Gracias por estar atenta y responder, ahora con todas las aclaraciones, ilustraciones y comentarios adicionales me quedo muchisimo mas claro. Habichuelas lo he escuchado en mas de una película extranjera pero nunca supe a que estaba haciendo referencia! jajajj
Trato de hacer post un poco fuera de lo comun, (sin tanta formalidad ......me refiero!!) para "romper" con la rigidez del dia a dia, es una pausa entre segmentos! :)
Que tengas buena semana!
"Las de la foto de PIM se llaman green peas en Am. Eng. (también baby peas o spring peas si son muy tiernas) y garden peas o English peas en Brit. Eng. y petit pois en Fr.
Las pequeñas que se comen dentro de la cáscara (vaina) se llaman snow peas.
Sweet pea es una mata con flores."
I understood what you wrote very clearly. What your intention was is debatable.
The OP was about a picture of a sweet pea. In your post you called it everything but a sweet pea. The ommission of sweet pea in your list suggested that you did not know. You also posted that the small ones were snow peas, suggesting that snow peas are green peas or sweet peas in the hull.
Furthermore, you posted that sweet pea was a mata which had nothing to do with the subject post and failed to acknowledge that sweet pea is also another name for a green pea and you might have even been contradicting those of us who called the item in the photo a sweet pea.
I think you should be more careful about relying on the fact that you have lived in the US and GB when you are arguing with a native speaker. If I had lived in Venezuela or any other country for 50 years I would never presume to know more about their language than a native.
From previous experience I suspect that you just like to disagree with whatever I post, if possible. Do you do that with anybody else or is it just me?
Vicente
I would never address anyone in this manner were it not for the fact that I need to respond to your public accusations which I find unfair and uncalled for.
You read a lot into what I write that's not explicitly said on my posts. You assume a lot and as I said before, you constantly feel attacked.
I knew it.Quote:
The ommission of sweet pea in your list suggested that you did not know.
They are the same family. I said, it was additional info.Quote:
You also posted that the small ones were snow peas, suggesting that snow peas are green peas or sweet peas in the hull.
I never contradicted anyone. I said it was weird that when you looked it up on Google images you got a plant with flowers and not the actual peas. Also bear in mind that sweet pea (no "s") is the plant and sweet peas (with "s") are the seeds inside the pods.Quote:
Furthermore, you posted that sweet pea was a mata which had nothing to do with the subject post and failed to acknowledge that sweet pea is also another name for a green pea and you might have even been contradicting those of us who called the item in the photo a sweet pea.
I was never arguing with anyone —much less with you because you can't handle it. For some unknown reason you felt I was arguing with you. The way you would act if you had lived 50 years in Vzla. is entirely up to you. I don't presume I know more than native speakers about either language—those are your words not mine. However, having studied both languages formally for many years, and being a teacher of both languages for 25 years has given me an above average knowledge on both languages. Aside from the fact that I was married for 30 yrs. to an Englishman who didn't speak Spanish. Are you even that old? This is not a hobby for me: teaching and studying Eng/Sp. is what I do for a living.Quote:
I think you should be more careful about relying on the fact that you have lived in the US and GB when you are arguing with a native speaker. If I had lived in Venezuela or any other country for 50 years I would never presume to know more about their language than a native.
I don't see why I should explain and/or deffend myself in every post that you feel the need to accuse me of things just because you think your word is sacred and find other viewpoints offensive.
I have zero idea where these feelings come from. I think you are being paranoid. I am not following you from post to post as you suggest; it just happens that we have contributed in the same questions by chance. I don't see jwolrey, geegolygosh, or anyone else for that matter complaining that I didn't include sweet peas on my list of possible words for peas and thus I must have something against them.Quote:
From previous experience I suspect that you just like to disagree with whatever I post...
As I said in another post where you were whining and accusing me of having something personal against you, please take all this paranoid pettiness into private messages. And kindly refrain from addressing my comments from now on. I will in turn do the same.
Please focus in the help that we are trying to provide here. May I remind you that a forum is a place for people to exchange knowledge, ideas and points of view. No one really has the final word. In essence, what's important is that the people that ask the Qs get enough input to solve their problem.
1. you didn't say you knew it
2. You didn't say it was "additional info"
3. Better that you bear in mind that you are out of your league in telling me how to speak English. If I'm growing sweet peas I am going to say they're sweet peas not sweet pea. I told you that you don't find everything on the internet. What's on the internet is all a product of human input and is subject to error, incomplete info and ommission.
4. You certainly do presume to know more than native speakers. You once told me that native speakers are often wrong when we were discussing the use of a certain word. You apparently don't remember that we have danced before.
6. 25 years is a piddling amount. The fact that you have been a teacher for 25 years and have an "above average knowledge" is far from making you an authority on how English is spoken in every day language in my country.
7. My age has little to do with it but yes, when you started teaching I was already 50 years old so I think am qualified to say how we actually speak our language, rather than how you would, or how you think we should. Your abilities are limited but you don't know it and can't admit it. What you, as a teacher, think is correct is a far cry from the reality of everyday language usage with all its bad grammar and slang. Thankfully, we don't have to adhere to proper English, with a teacher hovering over us all day long, and we can say "ain't" if we want to even though you think its unacceptable. What you might have learned from living here for a while does not qualify you as an expert. There are nuances and subtleties and words and phrases in every language which vary from region to region. NOBODY can know them all.
8. There are no free rides. If you post what I think is erroneous info then, if I see it, then I will comment. You don't have to defend yourself. That's your choice.
9. Don't hold your breath waiting for me to engage you in discussions by private messenger. If you post, I will address your comments as I see fit in open forum.
BTW:
"As I said in another post where you were whining..."
That's a personal insult and the gloves are off.
Vicente
You obviously have more time than me for this nonsense of yours...but what the heck, let me answer your nonsense for the last time.
I didn't say it. But I've known the phrase sweet peas for arvejas ever since.Quote:
1. you didn't say you knew it
I did. You just don't read everything and jump into conclusions. "...quise hacer referencia a una variedad más pequeña a manera de información adicional."Quote:
2. You didn't say it was "additional info"
Never have, never will. When did I tell you how to speak English?Quote:
3. Better that you bear in mind that you are out of your league in telling me how to speak English.
Yes, as native speakers we can all be wrong sometimes.Quote:
4. You certainly do presume to know more than native speakers. You once told me that native speakers are often wrong...
Anyone with 25 yrs. in any profession is considered an expert. I am not an authority in either Eng. or Sp. I just know a lot.Quote:
6. 25 years is a piddling amount. The fact that you have been a teacher for 25 years and have an "above average knowledge" is far from making you an authority on how English is spoken in every day language in my country.
Age alone doesn't qualify a person to know a language, you need to study too.Quote:
7. My age has little to do with it but yes, when you started teaching I was already 50 years old so I think am qualified to say how we actually speak our language, rather than how you would, or how you think we should.
Yes, my abilities are limited. All human beings have limited abilities. Even Albert Einstein and the like. It's a fact, not a subjective notion.Quote:
Your abilities are limited but you don't know it and can't admit it.
I agree. I had to study a lot too.Quote:
What you might have learned from living here for a while does not qualify you as an expert.
Agreed.Quote:
NOBODY can know them all.
What erroneous info did I provide? Please be specific.Quote:
8. There are no free rides. If you post what I think is erroneous info then, if I see it, then I will comment. You don't have to defend yourself. That's your choice.
Yes, I choose to defend myself when I am unfairly accused.
OK. Suit yourself. But, I still think that it's boring and disrespectful for the community that we use this space to solve the nonsense that you are creating with your paranoid whining.Quote:
9. Don't hold your breath waiting for me to engage you in discussions by private messenger. If you post, I will address your comments as I see fit in open forum.
Trying to insult me by calling me paranoid and a whiner again is not going to get you much mileage. Playing the semantics game won't work either. You have already backtracked on half the stuff you've written and I will continue to "whine" anytime I see you write something that I believe is erroneous or misinformation. You've been wrong here and in the other both post but your arrogance won't let you admit it. Pathetic.
Back up your accusations and be specific if you want anyone to take your accusations seriously.Quote:
I see you write something that I believe is erroneous or misinformation. You've been wrong here
For the last time: Where was I wrong? What misinformation did I provide? I keep asking you and you don't answer.
Oh please!! If I told you you'd still deny you were wrong. Anyway, I'm not going to do your homework for you. Go back and read for yourself...and try to be objective. At this point I don't really give a hoot if you get it or not..
You just can't backup your accusations with facts.
This is a serious forum. So, next time you plan on accusing someone, make sure you can validate your accusations with objectivity and not from the emotions and frustration you carry up your sleeve. You are just embarrasing yourself.
I don't have to back up anything. People can read what's been written. Trying to refocus the blame is an easy way out for you so I'll let you take it but the embarrassment isn't mine. My reputation on this board is secure.
This is boring. I'll let you have the last word, that way you won't continue with this.
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