Help with an e-mail: English to Spanish

Hey guys, I'm new and I've tried every machine online translation, but I really wanted a "real human" translation for this email I plan on sending to someone.
Thanks in advance!

here's the email

"Daniella, you are a wonderful girl, but I still have the sense that you feel uncomfortable spending time with me alone. I understand that this is all new for the both of us, but my main goal as a boyfriend right now is just to spend time with one and get to talk and hangout together. Just the two of us, I would love to hear your thoughts on what it means to be in a realtionship, and how it's been for the past week or so. I hope you understand this message. We could talk online, it's cool with me."

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Originally Posted by qwertyuiopenri

Hey guys, I'm new and I've tried every machine online translation, but I really wanted a "real human" translation for this email I plan on sending to someone.
Thanks in advance!

here's the email

"Daniella, you are a wonderful girl, but I still have the sense that you feel uncomfortable spending time with me alone. I understand that this is all new for the both of us, but my main goal as a boyfriend right now is just to spend time with one and get to talk and hangout together. Just the two of us, I would love to hear your thoughts on what it means to be in a realtionship, and how it's been for the past week or so. I hope you understand this message. We could talk online, it's cool with me."

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Daniella, eres una chica maravillosa, pero todavía tengo la sensación de que te sientes incómoda cuando estás sola conmigo. Entiendo que todo esto es nuevo para los dos, pero mi principal objetivo como tu amigo/novio en este momento es pasar el tiempo contigo y que hablemos y estemos juntos. Sólo tú y yo, me gustaría saber lo que significa para tí tener una relación, y cómo te has sentido en las últimas semanas. Espero entiendas este mensaje. Podríamos conversar online, está bien por mí.

I have doubts with the words in red. Isn't is "you" instead of "one"?

Note: talk online - conversar online is quite usual. You can also say "conectarnos y charlar a través de la computadora". That's the idea.

boyfriend: do you mean "amigo" (friend) or "novio" (that's a closer relationship)

Hope it helps!

thank u so very much, this means alot to me. Thanks!

"boyfriend: do you mean "amigo" (friend) or "novio" (that's a closer relationship)"

Hola Merce!!!:)

Your question brings up an interesting point in translations. I am sure you know this but this is one of the quirks in English.

"BOYfriend" almost ALWAYS means novio here in the U.S. The accent is on boy. If someone wants to use the same words to indicate that the person is just a friend they would probably say "a boy FRIEND" with an "a" in front, the two words separated, and emphasis on friend. There are many other ways to say that you have a male friend, of course, but boyfriend is pretty much reserved for somebody who is more than just a friend.

Strangely though, the word girlfriend is different. Females frequently refer to their female friends as girlfriends; however, a male would NEVER refer to another male as a boyfriend!:eek: (with obvious exceptions!!;) )

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Originally Posted by vicente

"boyfriend: do you mean "amigo" (friend) or "novio" (that's a closer relationship)"

Hola Merce!!!:)

Your question brings up an interesting point in translations. I am sure you know this but this is one of the quirks in English.

"BOYfriend" almost ALWAYS means novio here in the U.S. The accent is on boy. If someone wants to use the same words to indicate that the person is just a friend they would probably say "a boy FRIEND" with an "a" in front, the two words separated, and emphasis on friend. There are many other ways to say that you have a male friend, of course, but boyfriend is pretty much reserved for somebody who is more than just a friend.

Strangely though, the word girlfriend is different. Females frequently refer to their female friends as girlfriends; however, a male would NEVER refer to another male as a boyfriend!:eek: (with obvious exceptions!!;) )

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Wow! Thanks vicente!!!!
I was in doubt about that word... That was a good explanation, my friend!

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Originally Posted by vicente

"BOYfriend" almost ALWAYS means novio here in the U.S. The accent is on boy. If someone wants to use the same words to indicate that the person is just a friend they would probably say "a boy FRIEND" with an "a" in front, the two words separated, and emphasis on friend. There are many other ways to say that you have a male friend, of course, but boyfriend is pretty much reserved for somebody who is more than just a friend.

Strangely though, the word girlfriend is different. Females frequently refer to their female friends as girlfriends; however, a male would NEVER refer to another male as a boyfriend!:eek: (with obvious exceptions!!;) )

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EXCELLENT EXPLANATION, VICENTE!!! wow! ;) thanks.
So, is it safe to say that the use of "a" (indicating one of many) in the case of "just friends" would make it 100% clear? (well, unless of course you have many "significant others" -i.e., boyfriends). (BTW, I recently saw "significant other" translated as "significante otro"... AHHHHH :eek:)

laura

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Originally Posted by lauracipolla

EXCELLENT EXPLANATION, VICENTE!!! wow! ;) thanks.
So, is it safe to say that the use of "a" (indicating one of many) in the case of "just friends" would make it 100% clear? (well, unless of course you have many "significant others" -i.e., boyfriends). (BTW, I recently saw "significant other" translated as "significante otro"... AHHHHH :eek:)

laura

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No Laura, I don't think it would. If you say "a boyfriend" it would be as you said...that you probably have significantes otros...jejeje. If you said "a boy FRIEND" they MIGHT get it but it is better to say "guy friend" or "male friend" or something like that in order to be 100% clear.

Let me put it this way: If you happen to be talking about me with your boyfriend please do not describe me as "a boyfriend". Call me a guy you know, a male acquaintance, a buddy, a dude, or anything else but not a boyfriend. I'm too young to die!!

I don't know if it is used much anymore but in earlier days a mature woman would refer to her "gentleman friend" which meant a man she was dating and was a more polite and dignified way of saying boyfriend.

hmmm... you made me think, vicente (great for you!). wouldn't this ambiguity be derived from some liberation "mania"... a way of avoiding "declaring" if a determined individual is one of your many friends (male or other), a traditional (old-fashioned) boyfriend (or gentleman friend) or one of them, or just a friend who has some special permits... or even if your friend is a boy, a man, a male, a "not-so-male" or "none-of-your-business"... sorry... I got philosophical and digressed... haha

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Originally Posted by lauracipolla

hmmm... you made me think, vicente (great for you!). wouldn't this ambiguity derived from some liberation "mania"... a way of avoiding "declaring" if a determined individual is one of your many friends (male or other), a traditional (old-fashioned) boyfriend (or gentleman friend) or one of them, or just a friend who has some special permits... or even if your friend is a boy, a man, a male, a "not-so-male" or "none-of-your-business"... sorry... I got philosophical and digressed... haha

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Well, as I said earlier, it's a quirk. Frankly, I have no idea how it got that way. I guess it's sort of like amigo in Spanish. If a girl says a guy is her amigo then one could think she means novio, right? So that prompts the question..."Do you mean you're going out with him or is he just a friend?"
So in order to avoid confusion maybe they just decided to let "boyfriend" equal "novio".:)

Another piece of romantic protocol: As you know, here a boyfriend/girlfriend is often referred to as one's "sweetheart". You can have several boyfriends but you can only have one sweetheart. That does not mean, however, that you cannot call each of your boyfriends "Sweetheart". :D

and will you please make it clearer for me what's different in a "sweetheart"???

as to "amigo"... well, in Argentina (and among those of my generation at least), you give the category of "boyfriend" (or girlfriend, in the case of men) to a guy (/a girl) you're dating steadily -exclusively- and have dated for a while... before that, he's just "someone you're dating". (Note: the exact dating time necessary to turn from "someone-you're-dating" to "boyfriend"/ "girlfriend" is unknown and usually different for men and women: we women tend to call them boyfriends before they've even started noticing they've really been dating us for a long time...). there are of course people with "friends with rights", some who can name their ambiguous relations as "amigovios" but at least in my case, be them male or female, "FRIENDS will be friends" (i.e., people I love and who love me, but we're NEITHER romantically NOR sexually involved).

....just a friend who has some special permits...; "friends with rights",

That reminds me of a girl who once told me she was spending the weekend with a guy and when I asked if he was her boyfriend she said "No, he's just a friend with privileges."

I might be getting in over my head here because I'm an older man. :) Traditionally, a sweetheart is the "special someone", someone you are in love with and they could be your boyfriend (your only boyfriend), your fiancé or your husband. It is a term of endearment.

In the case of your boyfriend, I suppose you could have more than one and still have one of them as your "sweetheart" but to have more than one suggests that you are fickle and therefore the term sweetheart wouldn't mean much.

To further muddy the water, people often call their children or even strangers "sweetheart" much like they do in Spanish when they call someone "mi amor":) There was an old TV series called "Kojak" in which the lead character called everybody sweetheart, even other men.

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Originally Posted by vicente

....just a friend who has some special permits...; "friends with rights",

That reminds me of a girl who once told me she was spending the weekend with a guy and when I asked if he was her boyfriend she said "No, he's just afriend with privileges."

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Vicente, I suppose this will be knew to yo, probably to others, too, as it is said in Spain, I don't know if anywhere else:

amigo con derecho a roce

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To further muddy the water, people often call their children or even strangers "sweetheart" much like they do in Spanish when they call someone "mi amor":) There was an old TV series called "Kojak" in which the lead character called everybody sweetheart, even other men.

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Which reminds me of my days in London, everybody was (still is) called "sweetheart and darling" by the bus conductors. Always seemed very peculiar to me.

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Originally Posted by exxcéntrica

Vicente, I suppose this will be knew to yo, probably to others, too, as it is said in Spain, I don't know if anywhere else:

amigo con derecho a roce.

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Hola Exx, si, tienes razón, a mi, es una frase nueva. ¿Entonces esa frase quiere decir lo mismo de "friend with privileges"? ¿Es decir que el amigo con "derecho a roce" es un, ummm, compañero sexual sin responsibilidades? Raro que usan la palabra derecho al contrario de privilegio. Aqui solo el marido tiene tales derechos! :D :D

Por favor, corrijan los errores! Gracias!:)

Exx, acá en Argentina también decimos "amigo con derecho a roce" (¡yo no había querido poner la frase porque me parecía muy de acá!) En realidad, Vicente, los derechos del marido (y de la esposa) incluyen muchas responsabilidades e implican exclusividad... los que ejercen este tipo de amistad se permiten encuentros sexuales casuales, esporádicos, sin consecuencias, sin involucrarse románticamente, sin promesas...

¿Me parece a mí o te está interesando mucho el tema...? jaja :D

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Originally Posted by lauracipolla

Exx, acá en Argentina también decimos "amigo con derecho a roce" (¡yo no había querido poner la frase porque me parecía muy de acá!) En realidad, Vicente, los derechos del marido (y de la esposa) incluyen muchas responsabilidades e implican exclusividad... los que ejercen este tipo de amistad se permiten encuentros sexuales casuales, esporádicos, sin consecuencias, sin involucrarse románticamente, sin promesas...

¿Me parece a mí o te está interesando mucho el tema...? jaja :D

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Solo quiero conocer las culturas diferentes Laura...nada mas!!:D :D

Ups! Yo nunca había escuchado "amigo con derecho a roce"... y tengo unas cuantas amigas en ese estado.
El tema es que en español podemos hacer claramente la diferencia entre "amiga" y amigo", para referirse a friend. La palabra "amigovio" la usan más los pendejos que la gente entrada en años.
Además, creo que en ese caso las miradas y los tonos le aportan el sentido correspondiente a la frase... "Fulano es... un amigo" ;) y ninguno de tus amigos lo conoce:rolleyes: ... Entonces el otro qué piensa? "Esta tiene un fato" :p y de ahí en más todos saben que Mengana tiene companía... "un más que amigo"... así también lo he escuchado.

Aún así, siguo pensando que la eplicación de Vicente (con V mayúscula:D ) es perfecta. Aclaró mis dudas ciertamente.
A veces el idioma es mucho más que un conjunto de palabras que forman oraciones... cómo se dicen las cosas, tono, picardía, enojo, etc. tiene mucho que ver en lo que uno realmente quiere decir.

Me encantan estos threads... creo que se aprende un montón compartiendo opiniones... además el tema es interesante Laura... ni hablar para Vicente que quiere conocer otras "¿culturas?"... jajaja Just kidding amigo!!

Saludos a todos!

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Originally Posted by vicente

Hola Exx, si, tienes razón, para mí, es una frase nueva. ¿Entonces esa frase quiere decir lo mismo que "friend with privileges"? ¿Es decir que el amigo con "derecho a roce" es un, ummm, compañero sexual sin responsabilidades? Lo Raro es que usen la palabra derecho al contrario de privilegio. Aquí solo el marido tiene tales derechos! :D

Por favor, corrijan los errores! Gracias!:)

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Pues sí, es un poco raro y sobre todo, al menos en España, una "moda".

Una amiga de aquí suele ser más clara y dice que tiene un amigo "FF" (fu**ing friend, excuse my French!!:o ). A mí me parece al menos más sincero y menos hipócrita.

Eso de "amigo con derechos..." me parece un eufemismo tonto.:(

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Originally Posted by lauracipolla

Exx, acá en Argentina también decimos "amigo con derecho a roce" (¡yo no había querido poner la frase porque me parecía muy de acá!) En realidad, Vicente, los derechos del marido (y de la esposa) incluyen muchas responsabilidades e implican exclusividad... los que ejercen este tipo de amistad se permiten encuentros sexuales casuales, esporádicos, sin consecuencias, sin involucrarse románticamente, sin promesas...

¿Me parece a mí o te está interesando mucho el tema...? jaja :D

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A mí me parece muy interesante sobre todo ver que en otros países tan lejanos se use la misma expresión. A veces son tan distintas....

Sin ir mas lejos: el otro día una amiga argentina muy buena me dijo " estoy chocha"....
Bueno, ya está, pensé yo, está de broma y quiere decir que está chocheando , lo que en España significa "desvariar por la edad avanzada". En fin, decir alguna tontería por la edad. Teniendo en cuanta que de hecho ES un poco mayor, pensé haber acertado. ;)
Claro, nada más lejos de la realidad, al parecer. Ya que lo cierto fue , que "estar chocha" , lo confirmarán las amigas de aquí, significa "estar contenta".:eek: ¡¡Vaya con la diferencia!!

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Me encantan estos threads... creo que se aprende un montón compartiendo opiniones... además el tema es interesante Laura...

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Sí señor, en eso estamos todos de acuerdo, bien dicho amiga mía.:)

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ni hablar para Vicente que quiere conocer otras "¿culturas?"... jajaja Just kidding amigo!!

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Vicente, querido amigo, eso se llama en mi tierra: "tener mucha cara", jejejeje

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Originally Posted by exxcéntrica

Vicente, querido amigo, eso se llama en mi tierra: "tener mucha cara", jejejeje

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¿Tener mucha cara? ¿qué significa eso Exx?

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Originally Posted by mem286

¿Tener mucha cara? ¿qué significa eso Exx?

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Hola mem: Creo que el origen de la frase es este:

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tener ~ de corcho.
1. loc. verb. coloq. Tener poca vergüenza.

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También decimos: tiene un morro que se lo pisa

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familiar (desfachatez) cheek, nerve: ¡qué cara tienes!, what a cheek you've got!

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Tener cara en España es no cortarse a la hora de hablar, ser un caradura, tener desfachatez...dependiendo un poco .

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Originally Posted by exxcéntrica

Pues sí, es un poco raro y sobre todo, al menos en España, una "moda".

Una amiga de aquí suele ser más clara y dice que tiene un amigo "FF" (fu**ing friend, excuse my French!!:o ). A mí me parece al menos más sincero y menos hipócrita.

Eso de "amigo con derechos..." me parece un eufemismo tonto.:(

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Exxcéntrica, creo q has encontrado un nuevo ángulo, también interesante, al tema. los eufemismos son tontos, pero tienen su razón de existir. por ejemplo, alguien de 30-40, con padres algo mayores y tradicionales q esperaban q lo q tuvieras a estas alturas fuera un marido... no sé si toleraría tan gráfica descripción... o cuando alguien no muy cercano te pregunta: "pero, ¿estás casada?" (no). "¿entonces estás de novia?" (tampoco)... ¡cómo contestarles! el eufemismo te permite ser honesta sin ser tan explícita, ¿no te parece? :D

el idioma cambia junto con las costumbres, y si existen (y en abundancia) este tipo de relaciones "diferentes", no tradicionales, tendrán q incorporarse nuevas formas de llamarse. no creo q los "amigos con derecho a roce" o "FF" sean una moda -al menos, como muchas otras modas, creo q serán algo q se terminará siendo parte de la cultura... ;)

¡y sí que estos threads son interesantes!!!

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Originally Posted by exxcéntrica

Hola mem: Creo que el origen de la frase es este:



También decimos: tiene un morro que se lo pisa


Tener cara en España es no cortarse a la hora de hablar, ser un caradura, tener desfachatez...dependiendo un poco .

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Got it Exx!! Acá decimos "Qué caradura" o "Qué cara que tiene". Bastante parecido, pero no estaba segura. Thanks!!!

Hola mis amigas:)

Creo que estos palabras y frases serian muy difícil traducir si se encuentran en un documento. ¿No?

Mira, Exx ha empezado a un thread allí en Translation issues que se llama Do you believe...

Seria genial si ustedes pueden compartir sus opiniónes. Creo que tal temas como este tocan esa tema también.:)

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Originally Posted by vicente

Mira, Exx ha empezado un hilo allí en Translation issues que se llama Do you believe...

Seria genial si ustedes pudieran compartir sus opiniones.

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Es cierto, me gustaría mucho leer y oír vuestra opinión.:)

Gracias vicente.:)