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Hi!
Would you help me translate the following phrase into Spanish?
"argue a call"
Context:
If a coach argues a call he may be flagged. If the coach continues to argue a call the coach may be red flagged. Resulting in banishment from the field. If a coach is red flagged the team is to play without a coach the rest of the tournament.
Thanks!!!
En España usaríamos la palabra protestar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadia D
Si un entrenador protesta la decisión de un árbitro puede resultar en una amonestación . Si incide o insiste en sus protestas, se le puede mostrar tarjeta roja con el resultado de la expulsión/ser expulsado del campo......
Hi Nadia,
From the context given by you this text seems to make reference to a car race. I think "Argue a call" is when a pilot argues a resolution from the referee. I suggest "discutir una llamada de atención", though there might be a more technical option...:rolleyes:
Sabrina, I don't agree. I know it says "flagged", but at the same time race car teams don't have a "coach" and don't appear in "tournaments". I say it's something more like a soccer match where the person has chosen to call the cards "flags"...
By the way, I just wanted to say that I agree with exxcéntrica: a coach or player would "argue a call" with the referee by standing there yelling and yammering like Donald Duck...which can be a red "flag" infraction, depending on the language used...
Hi Sabrina, I thought like Scott it was a soccer or even basketball match.
It is a baseball game... no cars here...
I agree with you guys! Thanks a lot for your help!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadia D
This is news to me! In all my years watching baseball I have never seen a "flag" thrown or waved or anything similar. In baseball if a coach is ejected it is done with an arm motion by the umpire. At least, here in the U.S.
Hi everybody!Quote:
Originally Posted by vicente
Vincent, you really made me think with your comment, YOU ARE RIGHT! so (curious as I am, you know:D ) I made some research... And this is what I found:
We are NOT talking about a baseball game but a PAINTBALL TOURNAMENT. In this link you'll find what it is: http://www.starspangledcelebration.org/ and in this link you can read the rules: http://www.starspangledcelebration.org/Paintball07.doc. The exact sentence is on the Game Rules section, item 8.
Now it's crystal clear for everybody... ;)
Weird though, as Nadia, who posted the question confirmed the baseball match...
Ups! you're right Exx! I missed Nadia's post... :o
Weird really:rolleyes: , because if you google the exact same sentence she posted that's what you get: The paintball tournament!
:confused:
Hi, I agree with all of you.
To "argue a call" means to argue with a referee's decision .
In American Football officials call a penalty by "throwing the flag". They toss a yellow flag on the field. They carry the yellow flags in their back pockets during the game.
If a coach does not agree with the decision made by an official, he "throws in" a red flag to challenge the decision. The red flag is a challenge flag.
I hope this helps,
Kelly
I would just like to add that in football matches (soccer) this "flag" is actually a card called in Spanish:
tarjeta roja.
Baloncesto: Técnica Descalificante.
Yes, you are right exxcentrica, but "Different Games, Different Rules"
Red Cards are not the same as Red Flags, the difference is:
in Soccer when a player is "red carded" he is sent off the game, whereas
in American Football the "Red Flag" is used by the coach of the team to dispute a call. That is why it is also called a "Challenge Flag".
The coach can actually ask for an instant replay review of the game. If he is right the score will be changed. If he is not the team will lose a timeout.
Back to the original post:
Nadia asked for help with translating "argue a call" but if, as she says, her post refers to a baseball game then there are inaccuracies in the text of the paragraph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nadia D
The highlighted words above are seldom, if ever, heard in a baseball game. Unlike other sports, in baseball the head coach is called the manager. The only "coach" on the field is the third base coach and he is only there to assist runners coming from second base. There are no "flags", red or otherwise, in baseball. The manager may be ejected from a game by the lead official, the umpire, for excessive argument. Baseball is referred to as a game, not a tournament (a tournament is a series of games) and if a manager is ejected from a game it is for one game only not an entire tournament (or series as we say in the U.S; as in World Series).
I doubt that this text was in reference to a baseball game but if it was written for baseball it was not taken from a baseball rulebook. It could have been written by somebody who is not familiar with baseball.
If this is indeed a reference to the rules of baseball then the paragraph should be written something like this:
If a manager argues a call he may warned by an official. If the manager continues to argue a call the manager may be ejected from the game, resulting in banishment from the field for the remainder of the game. If a manager is ejected the team is to play without a manager the rest of the game.
Note: To repeat what I wrote previously, if the manager is ejected, it is done verbally by saying "You're out of the game!!" along with an upward swing of the right arm and fist with the thumb extended.
Agreed vicente! I will take your word for it as I am not a baseball fan,but something about baseball and flags does sounds a little strange.
However, I believe the phrase Nadia was stumbling with was to argue a call. The rest is just left for us to speculate, as Nadia is supposed to translate the text not change it. Unless she has been asked to correct it as well.
Kelly
Hey guys!! Thanks a lot for your help!!
The phrase "to argue a call" was rather isolated in the text for translation. The context I provided is not totally connected to the file I had to translate, I know, but serves well for the purpose of understanding the concept. :)
THANKS AGAIN!