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myselftion · 08-09-2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Jaubert

I agree with you. I'm not worried about job's quality, human beings are much better than machines (now, I don't know about the future in 10, 50, 100 or 500 years).

Anyway, talking about the present, there are many clients that have changed from human to machine translation. One could think we are talking about handbooks or patents that never would be read. But not. I'm talking about the image of the enterprise in Internet. Please check this: http://www.emmonspanish.com/05-06/sp...2x4uctrii2.htm

No matter what we think, the problem is that clients believe machines are good translators.

Even if clients think or believe machines are good translators they're going to realize that it isn't, I cannot imagine a book like Da Vinci code translated by google, and i have seen a lot of websites that have been translated by a machine and they are not a good translation... I think we are always going to be necessary ... or at least un a recent future.

In-House · 08-09-2008, 05:37 PM

I don't think clients believe machines are good translators. I think machines can serve a particular purpose when one does not understand a single word one's reading. If I want to have a general idea of what a Dutch page is about, a machine translator serves this purpose.
Now, can human translators be replaced? Well... I think it is possible, in medium future. Machines are accomplishing things we humans could have never dreamed of in the past. Factories filled with workers are now replaced by machines. Why not in the cognitive aspect? To me this is where we are headed, we can't do anything to prevent it, but we can do many things to adjust ourselves to it and evolve.

Ari · 08-10-2008, 08:05 AM

I agree, no machine can ever replace a human (at least not yet anyway), but I think what's good for Google is good for everthing we do online too. Look at what the net has done in such a short time 1995=18,000 websites, 2007=1,000,000,000+

I think that a true translator would really and finally open the door to international commerce online because as I have a bilingual blog that requires manual edition of my spanish entries, I'd much rather have that part automated. Think about it, if I could have a plugin on my blog that would automatically translate my posts into spanish but ACCURATELY not the way Google Translate does now. That would be wonderful as it would allow us to later take that digital ability and with technology evolving, eventually lead to vocal processors that can hear understand and replicate the language fast enough where maybe someday we will have some of those "universal translators" like they have on the Star Trek show.

I'd really like the idea of knowing I could go anywhere in the world and that I could understand everyone without carrying a little book of terms.

walterzev · 10-25-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julio Jaubert

Anyway, talking about the present, there are many clients that have changed from human to machine translation. One could think we are talking about handbooks or patents that never would be read. But not. I'm talking about the image of the enterprise in Internet. Please check this: http://www.emmonspanish.com/05-06/sp...2x4uctrii2.htm

Hola Julio:

Reci�n veo esto. Es una obra maestra del disparate. Parece hecho mal a prop�sito. Gracias por el aporte de humor, porque otra cosa no puede ser, aunque sea involuntario.

Saludos muchos,

mem286 · 10-26-2008, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Jaubert

No matter what we think, the problem is that clients believe machines are good translators.

S�... y la gente adem�s piensa que traducir es "soplar y hacer botella", la cosa m�s f�cil del mundo... digo yo, �para qu� estudiaremos tanto?

Un "thread" muy interesante... gracias Julio

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08-09-2008, 05:37 PM	#12
In-House Contributing User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 170 Rep Power: 100	I don't think clients believe machines are good translators. I think machines can serve a particular purpose when one does not understand a single word one's reading. If I want to have a general idea of what a Dutch page is about, a machine translator serves this purpose. Now, can human translators be replaced? Well... I think it is possible, in medium future. Machines are accomplishing things we humans could have never dreamed of in the past. Factories filled with workers are now replaced by machines. Why not in the cognitive aspect? To me this is where we are headed, we can't do anything to prevent it, but we can do many things to adjust ourselves to it and evolve.

08-10-2008, 08:05 AM	#13
Ari New Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I agree, no machine can ever replace a human (at least not yet anyway), but I think what's good for Google is good for everthing we do online too. Look at what the net has done in such a short time 1995=18,000 websites, 2007=1,000,000,000+ I think that a true translator would really and finally open the door to international commerce online because as I have a bilingual blog that requires manual edition of my spanish entries, I'd much rather have that part automated. Think about it, if I could have a plugin on my blog that would automatically translate my posts into spanish but ACCURATELY not the way Google Translate does now. That would be wonderful as it would allow us to later take that digital ability and with technology evolving, eventually lead to vocal processors that can hear understand and replicate the language fast enough where maybe someday we will have some of those "universal translators" like they have on the Star Trek show. I'd really like the idea of knowing I could go anywhere in the world and that I could understand everyone without carrying a little book of terms.

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