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CECIYJUANI · 08-07-2008, 08:42 AM

3.2. Sin perjuicio de lo dicho en el numeral anterior, cualquiera de las partes podr� rescindir unilateralmente y de pleno derecho el presente contrato, sin responsabilidad alguna, bastando para ello la sola comunicaci�n que, con una antelaci�n de por lo menos treinta d�as antes de la fecha de la rescisi�n, realice por cualquier medio aut�ntico escrito a la otra parte de tal voluntad.------------------------------------------

3.2. Without prejudice of what is stated in the previous article, any of the parties can annul the present contract unilaterlly and in full right, without any responsability, bieng sufficient for this the only comunication of the will, with at least 30 days of advance from the annulment date, made from any authentic written means.

Nira · 08-07-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CECIYJUANI

3.2. Sin perjuicio de lo dicho en el numeral anterior, cualquiera de las partes podr� rescindir unilateralmente y de pleno derecho el presente contrato, sin responsabilidad alguna, bastando para ello la sola comunicaci�n que, con una antelaci�n de por lo menos treinta d�as antes de la fecha de la rescisi�n, realice por cualquier medio aut�ntico escrito a la otra parte de tal voluntad.------------------------------------------

3.2. Without prejudice of what is stated in the previous article, any of the parties can annul the present contract unilaterlly and in full right, without any responsability, bieng sufficient for this the only comunication of the will, with at least 30 days of advance from the annulment date, made from any authentic written means.

Please note the following version:

3.2 Notwithstanding article 3.1, any of the parties of this contract can annul it unilaterally in its entirety without incurring any liability for which it will be sufficient an authentic written advice of their will within 30 days previous to the date of annulment.

I hope this helps.

Isabel

exxc�ntrica · 08-08-2008, 03:24 AM

Jesus, Nira, that's really perfect.

vicente · 08-08-2008, 06:28 AM

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3.2. Without prejudice of what is stated in the previous article, any of the parties can annul the present contract unilaterlly and in full right, without any responsability, bieng sufficient for this the only comunication of the will, with at least 30 days of advance from the annulment date, made from any authentic written means.

Check your spelling

responsibility, being, communication

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Originally Posted by Nira

Please note the following version:

3.2 Notwithstanding article 3.1, any of the parties of this contract can annul it unilaterally in its entirety without incurring any liability for which it will be sufficient an authentic written advice of their will within 30 days previous to the date of annulment.

This is a good translation but the paragraph states "at least" (por lo menos) 30 days before the cancellation not "within" (dentro) and the phrase "to the other party" must be included.

I think cancel is the better choice over anull; and intention is the better choice over will.

Here is my suggestion:

Notwithstanding the previous article (3.1) any of the parties has the full right to unilaterally cancel this contract it in its entirety, without penalty, by communicating their intentions, at least 30 days prior to the date of cancellation, by any proper written means to the other party(ies).

Nira · 08-08-2008, 07:20 PM

[quote=vicente]
Check your spelling

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This is a good translation but the paragraph states "at least" (por lo menos) 30 days before the cancellation not "within" (dentro) and the phrase "to the other party" must be included.

I think cancel is the better choice over anull; and intention is the better choice over will.

Here is my suggestion:

Notwithstanding the previous article (3.1) any of the parties has the full right to unilaterally cancel this contract it in its entirety, without penalty, by communicating their intentions, at least 30 days prior to the date of cancellation, by any proper written means to the other party(ies).

I agree with you Vicente, "intention" is a better word, and the part about 30 days is ambiguous in the original, so does the translator have to carry that ambiguity to the translation? I suppose she has to, she can't make a decision about the certainty of its meaning, can she?

Cheers

Isabel

vicente · 08-08-2008, 07:42 PM

[quote=Nira]

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Originally Posted by vicente

Check your spelling

I agree with you Vicente, "intention" is a better word, and the part about 30 days is ambiguous in the original, so does the translator have to carry that ambiguity to the translation? I suppose she has to, she can't make a decision about the certainty of its meaning, can she?

Cheers

Isabel

Hi Nira:

I don't do legal translations but I would think not.

Spanish is not my strength but doesn't "por lo menos treinta días antes de la fecha de la rescisión",mean at least 30 days before the date of the cancellation? That is without doubt what a contract would contain...a 30 day (or more) notice. For instance, in an apartment lease contract, a lessee must give the lessor 30 days notice prior to moving out if they plan to abandon the apartment before the lease expires.

To say "within 30 days" before the cancellation date would allow one party to cancel uniterally, wait 29 days and then advise the other party just one day before the cancellation date.

At least, that's how I would interpret it.

Your turn

exxc�ntrica · 08-09-2008, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by vicente

Spanish is not my strength but doesn't "por lo menos treinta d�as antes de la fecha de la rescisi�n",mean at least 30 days before the date of the cancellation?

Yes, it does, vicente.

I never noticed that. Good point and, as ususal, very well observed.

�Eres un lince!

08-07-2008, 08:42 AM	#1
CECIYJUANI Forum User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 75 Rep Power: 33	can some one check it up? 3.2. Sin perjuicio de lo dicho en el numeral anterior, cualquiera de las partes podr� rescindir unilateralmente y de pleno derecho el presente contrato, sin responsabilidad alguna, bastando para ello la sola comunicaci�n que, con una antelaci�n de por lo menos treinta d�as antes de la fecha de la rescisi�n, realice por cualquier medio aut�ntico escrito a la otra parte de tal voluntad.------------------------------------------ 3.2. Without prejudice of what is stated in the previous article, any of the parties can annul the present contract unilaterlly and in full right, without any responsability, bieng sufficient for this the only comunication of the will, with at least 30 days of advance from the annulment date, made from any authentic written means.

08-08-2008, 03:24 AM	#3
exxc�ntrica Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 1,146 Rep Power: 1148	Jesus, Nira, that's really perfect. __________________ �Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Al� les otorg� la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, di� a los varones el doble de lo que di� a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas. No se leg� al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer." *El Cor�n (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Al� a Maom� en el siglo VI)*

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