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    Thumbs up I wish I could...but I just can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by emilyb
    hhmmm, i really liked the movie as well. i guess you may need to be a bit more open minded seeker50. machismo or not, your reaction seems a bit overly dramatic.
    I wish I could be that open minded guy, Emily. And honestly, I've acted that way other times before, I mean, in an unbiased-based attitude concerning different events in life. Unfortunately--and just so you think it over--I just can't get any benefit out of watching a film containing scenes which, in the long run(and this should not be the case for every individual in the world..this is just me..Do you understand?) may bring a loathsome aftermath upon me. So, let's try to put my message across accordingly : I have believed in many of the statements made by Sigmund Freud, which may be the principle preventing me from becoming the non-discriminatory guy you meant.
    In psychoanalysis, the subconscious is the part of the psychic apparatus that does not ordinarily enter the individual's awareness but may be manifested by slips of the tongue,dreams,or neurotic symptoms. The origin of many neurotic symptoms is said to depend on conflicts that have been removed from consciousness by repression and maintained in the unconscious through various defense mechanisms. Recent biopsychological explorations have shed light on the relationship between brain physiology and the levels of consciousness at which people retain memories.
    So, in a nutshell..if, as a result of memories not being recalled at present but still available to be recalled at will(coming from external factors such as watching a movie like that).. my subconscious is going to sooner or later direct my attention to performing an action rated as part of human behavioral disturbances that I consider to be against my morale(maybe yours is totally fine on this matter, so, to you, there's nothing wrong with it), I would rather refrain myself from watching something that I grade as fruitless. I've known about many cases in which those who believed themselves to be error-free people when watching scenes like these, ended up fulfilling the same role, once in a lifetime, but they failed.

    Hope I got through to you this time.
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    Seeker50, you are so right: It has been scientifically proven that watching a gay scene makes you gay. The subconscious is a very powerful thing, as proven by our famous cigar-sucking friend Dr. Freud. Im glad you recognize that exposure to such immoral things is a sure-fire road to sin. The only problem is that you actually entered the theatre, so ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinb
    Seeker50, you are so right: It has been scientifically proven that watching a gay scene makes you gay. The subconscious is a very powerful thing, as proven by our famous cigar-sucking friend Dr. Freud. Im glad you recognize that exposure to such immoral things is a sure-fire road to sin. The only problem is that you actually entered the theatre, so ...
    Just to make a little correction on the last part of your statement, Justin : you're right. I did enter the theater. And believe me.. it took us a lot of time and discussion, deliberation, rumination or whatever we can call it, in order for us( my wife and I) to get to the movies and watch this film. My wife was kind of dead set to go in the theater and put me in troubles by reminding me of a previous promise I had made some time ago. So, I couldn't back away from it.
    Besides, and I am being honest with you, I didn't have the slightest idea of what the film was going to show me at a certain part of it, you know what I'm talking about. So, when that piece was shown, I didn't even finish watching it. I just got out of that room and went into the other one next to it( James Bond's film, "Cassino Royale" was on).
    Anyway, thanks for agreeing with me on my prior statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emilyb
    hhmmm, i really liked the movie as well. i guess you may need to be a bit more open minded seeker50. machismo or not, your reaction seems a bit overly dramatic.
    Hi emilyb! I make your words mine to say that I think you may need to be a bit more open minded to accept that there may be other opinions than yours...



    Best regards,

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    Just to clear the air and include myself in on the participation of this conversation...justinb was being sarcastic. He, I, and numerous others are going to have a hard time believing that a movie can make you gay or truly affect your behavior in many different contexts. You, seeker50, since you mentioned that you had a wife (I think...), are an adult and can make choices on your own. I would never ask anyone to enjoy the depiction of homosexual-related activities...but it's not witchcraft.

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    Hahahahaha RIDICULOUS. And to think, all those years studying psychology and the thousands of dollars I spent studying it, and I was never trained PROPERLY. I never found out that watching movies with scenes makes you gay!!! (Seeker, this is also sarcasm)
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    Quote Originally Posted by emilyb
    Hahahahaha REDICULOUS. And to think, all those years studying psychology and the thousands of dollars I spent studying it, and I was never trained PROPERLY. I never found out that watching movies with scenes makes you gay!!! (Seeker, this is also sarcasm)
    I just don't understand. I just can't get it. I mean, How could it possibly be that there are still many individuals in this world who have a very hard time accepting other's viewpoints ? It is not just other's viewpoints but also, it should be other's mottos governing their lives as a result of being raised either in a large or small group called society which has shaped you in a certain way so that you think different than everybody else.
    I've provided you with a deferential response primarily based upon psychoanalisis. That should be fine. Then, What is your feedback is going to be like ? A remark that clearly brings into relief that fact you seem like being eaten up with peevishness coming from not being able to find the right terms to address this issue accordingly ? Try something better. And by the way, the misspelling of the word you just typed in calls for a correction which I guess you'll humbly accept, won't you? -It is not REDICULOUS but RIDICULOUS.
    Overall, if this is the reality surrounding this topic, I'd rather pull out of it. It's not worth trying to move forward...
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    Try not to see "Die Hard," maybe it would turn you into a violent person. And "Jurassic Park" may turn you into a dinosaur. Anyone seen "Boys Don`t Cry?" I heard it's a great one. Hope it isn't too rIdiculous for some.

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    I WALKED OUT of it,

    your reaction seems a bit overly dramatic
    I have seen the film, too. I didn't know this had become such an intense discussion.

    I thought it was rather dramatic, but , of course, in those days and being a macho cowboy and all....

    In any case, I do not blame seeker at all! I actually agree with him. he didn't like the film? Ok, for whatever reason: WALK OUT OF IT! I think it is the best choice. I have never understood people bearing something they really dislike just because "they paid the ticket". Not for me! I would have done the same. And I also think that seeker should be allowed to dislike homosexuality. So what? I believe we do not have to be on the same wavelength in everything and be branded as "outdated" or snobbish or racist for everything we do.
    It has been scientifically proven that watching a gay scene makes you gay.
    Justin, you are being very bad!! jejeje

    I make your words mine to say that I think you may need to be a bit more open minded to accept that there may be other opinions than yours...
    Mem, dear, please don't change!
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    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


    El Corán (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Alá a Maomé en el siglo VI)


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    I just don't understand. I just can't get it. I mean, How could it possibly be that there are still many individuals in this world who have a very hard time accepting other's viewpoints ?


    On the whole, I do not believe you are right, seeker. It has been proven that even children with same-se x parents do not automatically become lesbi*ns or gay. However, I do agree with your statement above. Your opinion is just as good as any others. .
    Quote Originally Posted by emilyb
    Try not to see "Die Hard," maybe it would turn you into a violent person. And "Jurassic Park" may turn you into a dinosaur. Anyone seen "Boys Don`t Cry?" I heard it's a great one. Hope it isn't too rIdiculous for some.
    Emily, you do seem to have a hard time accepting opinions which do not agree with yours.. Your examples are not only ridiculous but also unfair to seeker.

    We should Try to follow the wording:

    LET'S AGREE TO DISAGREE!
    Last edited by exxcéntrica; 03-27-2008 at 07:53 AM.
    Los hombres son superiores a las mujeres porque Alá les otorgó la primacia sobre ellas. Portanto, dió a los varones el doble de lo que dió a las mujeres. Los maridos que sufrieran desobediencia de sus mujeres pueden castigarlas: abandonarlas en sus lechos, e incluso golpearlas.
    No se legó al hombre mayor calamidad que la mujer."


    El Corán (libro sagrado de los musulmanes, recitado por Alá a Maomé en el siglo VI)


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