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    I do remember going, "are you serious.........." a few times throughout the film, regarding what you are talking about, Gabriel, but still...
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    C'mon, who is looking for a message in Transformers??
    And what about the message of "good always wins" or "sacrifice for your true friends", etc?

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    Vero, that's what I'm talking about: the most effective ideology is the one you don't recognize as ideology.

    PS: By the way, what is "good"? what is "evil"? Is there such a thing as good-in-itself? bad-in-itself?

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