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iwona · 07-27-2009, 04:57 AM

Hello All,
I've been trying to make up the meaning of the phrase for ten days, and still haven't found it.

In a text Timothy Garton Ash writes on the European Union, he calls the future foreign policy of the Union "diplomats' daily salmon and wine, but of no interest to an ordinary joe". Do you think the translation "con lo que desayunan cada d�a los diplom�ticos, pero que interesa muy poco a un tipo normal" is acceptable?

Thanks.

Mario Verber · 07-27-2009, 03:08 PM

I guess "daily salmon and wine" represents a very sophisticated and expensive way of life. Maintaining their way of life is their real policy or agenda.

As� es como lo entiendo, hablando del futuro de la politica exterior " Que no falte el salm�n y el vino en la mesa de los diplom�ticos, pero sin considerar los intereses del ciudadano com�n."

La politica exterior estara mas preocupada por que no falte salmon y vino en la mesa de los diplomaticos, sin el minimo interes por el ciudadano comun.

Considera, adaptaciones.

Veronica · 07-27-2009, 03:23 PM

I agree with Mario here.

However, if you wrote the whole sentence maybe we could give you a better translation.

iwona · 07-28-2009, 12:41 AM

You're right, the full sentence changes the context. In another forum, some helpful natives explained that the meaning was close to "bread and butter"-pan de cada d�a in Spanish.
Now another question follows: would you accept "desayunar con" as a synonym of "pan de cada d�a"?

Thank you.

Mario Verber · 07-28-2009, 11:03 PM

Now I`m lost

SandraT · 07-29-2009, 08:54 AM

Not really, Iwona. Pan de cada d�a is something you do yourself. For example, translating for me, is the pan de cada d�a...I do it everyday.
It refers to something you do everyday but not necessarily related to food.
As for the phrase,

Quote:

the future foreign policy of the Union "diplomats' daily salmon and wine, but of no interest to an ordinary joe".

it refers to the fact that the foreign policy is of interest to the diplomats but the common citizen does not care about it as they would not care about wine and salmon, but more about other meals that would feel their stomach...This is how I see it!!!
hope it helps!

07-27-2009, 04:57 AM	#1
iwona New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 35 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	salmon and wine Hello All, I've been trying to make up the meaning of the phrase for ten days, and still haven't found it. In a text Timothy Garton Ash writes on the European Union, he calls the future foreign policy of the Union "diplomats' daily salmon and wine, but of no interest to an ordinary joe". Do you think the translation "con lo que desayunan cada d�a los diplom�ticos, pero que interesa muy poco a un tipo normal" is acceptable? Thanks.

07-27-2009, 03:08 PM	#2
Mario Verber Forum User Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 41 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 21	Re: salmon and wine I guess "daily salmon and wine" represents a very sophisticated and expensive way of life. Maintaining their way of life is their real policy or agenda. As� es como lo entiendo, hablando del futuro de la politica exterior " Que no falte el salm�n y el vino en la mesa de los diplom�ticos, pero sin considerar los intereses del ciudadano com�n." La politica exterior estara mas preocupada por que no falte salmon y vino en la mesa de los diplomaticos, sin el minimo interes por el ciudadano comun. Considera, adaptaciones.

07-27-2009, 03:23 PM	#3
Veronica Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 811 Rep Power: 297	Re: salmon and wine I agree with Mario here. However, if you wrote the whole sentence maybe we could give you a better translation. __________________ mmm...papas fritas.

07-28-2009, 12:41 AM	#4
iwona New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Age: 35 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	Re: salmon and wine You're right, the full sentence changes the context. In another forum, some helpful natives explained that the meaning was close to "bread and butter"-pan de cada d�a in Spanish. Now another question follows: would you accept "desayunar con" as a synonym of "pan de cada d�a"? Thank you.

07-28-2009, 11:03 PM	#5
Mario Verber Forum User Join Date: Jun 2009 Age: 41 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 21	Re: salmon and wine Now I`m lost

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