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oana_ls · 03-21-2008, 04:16 AM

Hello everybody!

I would really like the opinion of a native speaker on this matter :P. How strange it is for someone living in Latin America to hear "vosotros" instead of "ustedes" and the other way around? Could someone please give some examples on the different uses.

Thank you so much!

Oana

ladreamin · 03-21-2008, 07:50 AM

Hi,
I am not a native spanish speaker but i know that in some latin american countries, people tend to speak with usted (for a formal you), ustedes (this one is for multiple persons). In some other countries, such as colombia and argentina, they mostly use the "vosotros" such as "vos me entendeis?" when in another country such as venezuela they would say "usted me entiende?"

Did you understand?

mem286 · 03-21-2008, 12:57 PM

En Argentina los pronombres personales que se usan son:

Yo amo, canto, juego
Vos amás, cantás, jugás
El/Ella ama, canta, juega
Nosotros o nosotras amamos, cantamos, jugamos
Ustedes aman, cantan, juegan
Ellos/ellas aman, cantan, juegan

En Argentina no se usa nunca el "tú" en la segunda persona singular, ni el "vosotros" en la segunda persona plural.

Te aconsejo esperes las respuestas de otros foristas para que te cuenten cómo se usa en otros países de Amértica Latina, ya que en este foro tenemos el privilegio de contar con gente de todos ellos.

Un saludo,

CarlosRoberto · 03-26-2008, 08:50 AM

Hola. In México, the use of "vosotros" or "vos" practically doesn't exist. In my country the pronouns are:

Yo amo
Tú amas
Él/Ella ama
Nosotros/nosotras amamos
Ustedes aman
Ellos/Ellas aman

When we hear someone using "vosotros" or "vos" we immediately know he or she is a foreigner (or pretends to be one). Hope this helps.

oana_ls · 03-27-2008, 02:18 AM

Thank you so much! all the answers have been extremely helpful! I am really grateful that you took the time to reply to my post. Have a lovely day everyone!

Oana

exxc�ntrica · 03-27-2008, 03:27 AM

Hi oana, in Spain, the use of vosotros is frequent.

So we must add to Carlos' conjugation the second person plural:

vosotros amáis

In Spain voseo and the verb conjugated like in mem's post sound definitely foreign.

03-21-2008, 04:16 AM	#1
oana_ls Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Romania Posts: 9 Rep Power: 8	The use of "vosotros" / "ustedes" Hello everybody! I would really like the opinion of a native speaker on this matter :P. How strange it is for someone living in Latin America to hear "vosotros" instead of "ustedes" and the other way around? Could someone please give some examples on the different uses. Thank you so much! Oana __________________ Oana Ladariu

03-21-2008, 07:50 AM	#2
ladreamin New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Panama Age: 18 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	vosotros/ustedes Hi, I am not a native spanish speaker but i know that in some latin american countries, people tend to speak with usted (for a formal you), ustedes (this one is for multiple persons). In some other countries, such as colombia and argentina, they mostly use the "vosotros" such as "vos me entendeis?" when in another country such as venezuela they would say "usted me entiende?" Did you understand?

03-21-2008, 12:57 PM	#3
mem286 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Fe, Argentina Posts: 757 Rep Power: 645	En Argentina los pronombres personales que se usan son: Yo amo, canto, juego Vos amás, cantás, jugás El/Ella ama, canta, juega Nosotros o nosotras amamos, cantamos, jugamos Ustedes aman, cantan, juegan Ellos/ellas aman, cantan, juegan En Argentina no se usa nunca el "tú" en la segunda persona singular, ni el "vosotros" en la segunda persona plural. Te aconsejo esperes las respuestas de otros foristas para que te cuenten cómo se usa en otros países de Amértica Latina, ya que en este foro tenemos el privilegio de contar con gente de todos ellos. Un saludo, __________________ Mer _______________________________________________ All that is now All that is gone All that's to come and everything under the sun is in tune, but the sun is eclipsed by the moon. Last edited by mem286 : 03-21-2008 at 01:20 PM.

03-27-2008, 02:18 AM	#5
oana_ls Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Romania Posts: 9 Rep Power: 8	Thank you! Thank you so much! all the answers have been extremely helpful! I am really grateful that you took the time to reply to my post. Have a lovely day everyone! Oana __________________ Oana Ladariu

03-27-2008, 03:27 AM	#6
exxc�ntrica Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Spain Posts: 799 Rep Power: 541	Hi oana, in Spain, the use of vosotros is frequent. So we must add to Carlos' conjugation the second person plural: vosotros amáis In Spain voseo and the verb conjugated like in mem's post sound definitely foreign. __________________ �Aunque la conducta del marido sea censurable, aunque este se d� a otros amores, la mujer virtuosa debe reverenciarlo como a un dios. Durante la infancia, una mujer debe depender de su padre, al casarse de su marido, si este muere, de sus hijos y si no los tuviera, de su soberano. Una mujer nunca debe gobernarse a s� misma." *Leyes de Manu (Libro Sagrado de la India*

03-26-2008, 08:50 AM	#4
CarlosRoberto Contributing User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ciudad de M�xico Age: 42 Posts: 138 Rep Power: 303	Hola. In México, the use of "vosotros" or "vos" practically doesn't exist. In my country the pronouns are: Yo amo Tú amas Él/Ella ama Nosotros/nosotras amamos Ustedes aman Ellos/Ellas aman When we hear someone using "vosotros" or "vos" we immediately know he or she is a foreigner (or pretends to be one). Hope this helps.

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