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Frank van den Eeden · 07-05-2008, 10:27 AM

TAKE A LOOK !
I had put this LINK already with the "Proposals"
but in case you missed it :
http://www.3ponts.edu/test.htm

SandraT · 07-07-2008, 08:40 AM

Thanks, Frank!
I had 15 out of 20...I will never learn the use of
y
en
etc.... Never mind. I won't be able to take any vacation in France right now...

Frank van den Eeden · 07-07-2008, 08:52 AM

Sandra,
that is still 75%
and that means CUM LAUDE (with honor)

you are also the most faithful fan of the French section here,
and I'm very happy with that !

au revoir,
Frank.

Fara� · 11-11-2008, 05:06 PM

Salut Frank,

Moi, j'ai aussi fait le test

mais j'ai une question � vous poser...

Dans la question 9, est-ce qu'on peut utiliser le verbe "r�nover" quand il s'agit d'une maison? Je me demande si on pourrait utiliser le verbe "renouveler" quand m�me dans ce cas

Merci d'avance

Fara�

matthewg · 11-11-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SandraT

Thanks, Frank!
I had 15 out of 20...I will never learn the use of
y
en
etc.... Never mind. I won't be able to take any vacation in France right now...

I agree... I think this is one of the hardest concepts to grasp in the entire language, at least for me!

Frank van den Eeden · 11-12-2008, 01:35 AM

Fara�,

r�nover et renouveler sont des synonymes.
Il y a seulement une petite diff�rence.
Ici, je pr�f�re r�nover la maison.

renouveler :
Remplacer (une chose consomm�e, disparue, us�e ou d�su�te) par une chose de m�me esp�ce. Renouveler l'air d'une pi�ce, l'eau d'un vase; renouveler des provisions, des ressources, son linge, son outillage, un pansement. Renouveler des ap�ritifs.

r�nover :
Faire rena�tre, redonner sa force � quelque chose.
Faire revivre une chose tomb�e en d�su�tude, oubli�e.
Changer, am�liorer ce qui s'est d�grad�, ce, celui qui a perdu ses qualit�s.

un salut amical,
Frank.

Frank van den Eeden · 11-12-2008, 01:56 AM

Matthewg,

y � en

must be as hard for you as �por/para� is for us ...

one of the main differences is the direction :

j�y ajoute (I add to it : from me to ...)
j�en prends (I take away from ... to me)

but it is much more complicated than that :
j�y pense (I think of it) yet qu�en penses-tu ? (what do you think about it)
and tu n�y penses pas ! (you are not serious !)

The one thing to remember is the direction rule,
otherwise you�re in for a lot of studying !

kindest regards,
Frank.

Fara� · 11-12-2008, 07:19 AM

Merci beaucoup Frank pour votre r�ponse rapide et pr�cise.

Pour moi, le difficile ici a �t� ce verbe, vu que dans ma langue maternelle, on en a qu'un seule verbe pour r�nover/renouveler (renovar)

Amicalement,

Fara�

matthewg · 11-12-2008, 11:43 AM

Thanks for the explanation, Frank! That actually makes it much easier.

fernandar · 12-26-2008, 07:25 AM

wow! Thanks Frank. Very interesting!
I got a 18/20 on the first, on dirait pas mal...

I´ve been studying french for some time and Y and En are still one of my biggest fears. I´ve stopped trying to study it and just use it the way I hear it being used and sounds best when I´m about to apply it...not the best solution though!

07-05-2008, 10:27 AM	#1
Frank van den Eeden Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Antwerp/Belgium Age: 63 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 433	Test your French TAKE A LOOK ! I had put this LINK already with the "Proposals" but in case you missed it : http://www.3ponts.edu/test.htm __________________ beste groeten - sinc�res salutations - kindest regards - atentamente - mit freundlichen Gr��en

07-07-2008, 08:40 AM	#2
SandraT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Havana,Cuba Posts: 1,200 Rep Power: 1686	Thanks, Frank! I had 15 out of 20...I will never learn the use of y en etc.... Never mind. I won't be able to take any vacation in France right now... __________________ _____________________________ [Have a nice day!!! ♥ Sandra T ♥

07-07-2008, 08:52 AM	#3
Frank van den Eeden Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Antwerp/Belgium Age: 63 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 433	cum laude Sandra, that is still 75% and that means CUM LAUDE (with honor) you are also the most faithful fan of the French section here, and I'm very happy with that ! au revoir, Frank. __________________ beste groeten - sinc�res salutations - kindest regards - atentamente - mit freundlichen Gr��en

11-11-2008, 05:06 PM	#4
Fara� Contributing User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: مصر‎, Posts: 132 Rep Power: 202	Re: Test your French Salut Frank, Moi, j'ai aussi fait le test mais j'ai une question � vous poser... Dans la question 9, est-ce qu'on peut utiliser le verbe "r�nover" quand il s'agit d'une maison? Je me demande si on pourrait utiliser le verbe "renouveler" quand m�me dans ce cas Merci d'avance Fara�

11-12-2008, 01:35 AM	#6
Frank van den Eeden Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Antwerp/Belgium Age: 63 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 433	Re: Test your French Fara�, r�nover et renouveler sont des synonymes. Il y a seulement une petite diff�rence. Ici, je pr�f�re r�nover la maison. renouveler : Remplacer (une chose consomm�e, disparue, us�e ou d�su�te) par une chose de m�me esp�ce. Renouveler l'air d'une pi�ce, l'eau d'un vase; renouveler des provisions, des ressources, son linge, son outillage, un pansement. Renouveler des ap�ritifs. r�nover : Faire rena�tre, redonner sa force � quelque chose. Faire revivre une chose tomb�e en d�su�tude, oubli�e. Changer, am�liorer ce qui s'est d�grad�, ce, celui qui a perdu ses qualit�s. un salut amical, Frank. __________________ beste groeten - sinc�res salutations - kindest regards - atentamente - mit freundlichen Gr��en

11-12-2008, 01:56 AM	#7
Frank van den Eeden Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Antwerp/Belgium Age: 63 Posts: 334 Rep Power: 433	Re: Test your French Matthewg, y � en must be as hard for you as �por/para� is for us ... one of the main differences is the direction : j�y ajoute (I add to it : from me to ...) j�en prends (I take away from ... to me) but it is much more complicated than that : j�y pense (I think of it) yet qu�en penses-tu ? (what do you think about it) and tu n�y penses pas ! (you are not serious !) The one thing to remember is the direction rule, otherwise you�re in for a lot of studying ! kindest regards, Frank. __________________ beste groeten - sinc�res salutations - kindest regards - atentamente - mit freundlichen Gr��en

11-12-2008, 07:19 AM	#8
Fara� Contributing User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: مصر‎, Posts: 132 Rep Power: 202	Re: Test your French Merci beaucoup Frank pour votre r�ponse rapide et pr�cise. Pour moi, le difficile ici a �t� ce verbe, vu que dans ma langue maternelle, on en a qu'un seule verbe pour r�nover/renouveler (renovar) Amicalement, Fara�

11-12-2008, 11:43 AM	#9
matthewg Forum User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 91 Rep Power: 206	Re: Test your French Thanks for the explanation, Frank! That actually makes it much easier.

12-26-2008, 07:25 AM	#10
fernandar Forum User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 40 Rep Power: 25	Re: Test your French wow! Thanks Frank. Very interesting! I got a 18/20 on the first, on dirait pas mal... I´ve been studying french for some time and Y and En are still one of my biggest fears. I´ve stopped trying to study it and just use it the way I hear it being used and sounds best when I´m about to apply it...not the best solution though!

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