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Old 10-19-2008, 07:05 AM   #1
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Hi. cOULD ANYBODY TEACH ME ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN USAGE OF :TO RECKON- TO DEEM- TO CONSIDER.
IS IT WRONG TO SAY: RECKON THE MATTER or DEEM THE MATTER?
ANOTHER QUESTION: WHEN SOMEBODY IS LEARNING ENGLISH AND LEARNS A NEW WORD, WHICH IS THE BEST METHOD TO KNOW WHERE TO APPLICATE IT? MY ONLY SOURCES ARE LOOKING FOR IT IN A DCITIONARY AND TRYING TO READ IT IN SOME CONTEXT THROUGH INTERNET. IS IT CONVENIENT?
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:19 AM   #3
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-to apply (not to applicate)



to deem


-to judge or consider something in a particular way
The book was deemed to be unsuitable for children.

-to consider or judge something in a particular way:

[+ object + noun or adjective] The area has now been deemed safe.
[+ noun or adjective] We will provide help whenever you deem it appropriate.
[+ object + to infinitive] Anyone not paying the registration fee by 31 March will be deemed to have withdrawn from the scheme


to reckon

to reckon : to think
to consider
to calculate
to reckon sth in
to reckon on sth/doing sth
to reckon sth up or reckon up sth
(not) to reckon with sb/sth
to reckon without sb/sth
to reckon in/on/up/with/without


to consider

to consider (possibility)
to consider (subject/fact)
to consider (care about)
to consider (have an opinion)
to consider (think about)
consider it done


I found this clarification in the Cambridge Dictionary :
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

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-to apply (not to applicate)



to deem


-to judge or consider something in a particular way
The book was deemed to be unsuitable for children.

-to consider or judge something in a particular way:

[+ object + noun or adjective] The area has now been deemed safe.
[+ noun or adjective] We will provide help whenever you deem it appropriate.
[+ object + to infinitive] Anyone not paying the registration fee by 31 March will be deemed to have withdrawn from the scheme


to reckon

to reckon : to think
to consider
to calculate
to reckon sth in
to reckon on sth/doing sth
to reckon sth up or reckon up sth
(not) to reckon with sb/sth
to reckon without sb/sth
to reckon in/on/up/with/without


to consider

to consider (possibility)
to consider (subject/fact)
to consider (care about)
to consider (have an opinion)
to consider (think about)
consider it done


I found this clarification in the Cambridge Dictionary :
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/

Regards,
Frank.


Hello Frank!! Well done!

Maramaras:

These are three more words that are practically synonymous in their everyday usage.

In the U.S.:

I deem (consider) the subject closed to discussion. (As in, I am not inclined to talk about it further. I think that we've talked about it enough.)

To deem is like making a firm decision.

I reckon we should begin a new discussion; as in, I think (or I consider) the old discussion (to be) is dead.

I have reckoned (considered, calculated) this out and I think the plan will work.

To reckon in this instance is to consider or think or calculate but it allows for further opinion, thought or effort.

There are other usages.

She is a force to be reckoned with; as in, she is a strong influence and cannot be ignored.

We used dead-reckoning to find our way back home; as in, navigating, finding a direction to travel.

I consider her to be a friend. I consider the subject closed. I consider him to be the best candidate.

To consider is like giving careful thought to something but is more of an opinion than a decision (as in, I deem)

In short, more or less, I deem means I have decided; I reckon means I think but I could be wrong; I consider means I that's how I feel.

As you can see there are only subtle differences in the meanings and the words can often be used inter-changeably.

As always...these are merely my personal interpretations and I invite others to comment if they disagree.
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