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Old 05-11-2008, 09:04 PM   #1
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Hi.! I can´t find out what this expression means: a bend of willows. A willow is a tree, if I am not wrong. May it refer to the willow when it curves(bends) because of the wind?
And, another question. We use shall when we are making a proposition for the future: We shall go to the cinema tonight, shan´t we? Does it have another usage?
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Old 05-12-2008, 08:28 PM   #2
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Hi.! I can´t find out what this expression means: a bend of willows. A willow is a tree, if I am not wrong. May it refer to the willow when it curves(bends) because of the wind?
And, another question. We use shall when we are making a proposition for the future: We shall go to the cinema tonight, shan´t we? Does it have another usage?
Thanks
Best wishes .

Hola maramaras!!

A willow is a tree, if I am not wrong. May it refer to the willow when it curves(bends) because of the wind?

Yes, you are correct.

We use shall when we are making a proposition for the future: We shall go to the cinema tonight, shan´t we? Does it have another usage?

Just like the word will it applies to future actions, yes. Here are some examples:

1.plan to, intend to, or expect to: I shall go later.

2.will have to, is determined to, or definitely will: You shall do it. He shall do it.

3.(in laws, directives, etc.) must; is or are obliged to: The meetings of the council shall be public.

4.(used interrogatively in questions, often in invitations): Shall we go?

I am not aware of any other usage. Many people in the U.S. commonly use will, perhaps improperly, in place of shall.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:24 PM   #3
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A willow is a tree, if I am not wrong. May it refer to the willow when it curves(bends) because of the wind?

Yes, you are correct.


Willow is "sauce" in Spanish.

My question is: Can "bend" in this case refer to "curva", as in the example: We took the bend (of willows) very fast. When I read the sentence, first thing that came to my mind was a beautiful paved road, and a bend full of willows... What do you think, Vicente?
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Willow is "sauce" in Spanish.

My question is: Can "bend" in this case refer to "curva", as in the example: We took the bend (of willows) very fast. When I read the sentence, first thing that came to my mind was a beautiful paved road, and a bend full of willows... What do you think, Vicente?


Hmmmm....I had not thought of it that way mem. In my mind, it was poetic and it was a stand of willow trees bending in the wind even though it is an unusual structure.

I wonder if maramaras can provide a sentence so we have context?
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Thanks for all of you, deer englishmates (I´ve just "invented" this expression). I read " a bend of willows " in a page that spoke about collective nouns, but I can´t remember which was. There was no context.
I imagined that it might refers not only to a peaceful landscape, but to a kind of servitude human behaviour. Now, I think that this is rather a strange idea. So, I asked for your opinion.
And about the usage of shall, you have been very clear, Vicente, I will send some sentences to see if I´ve comprehended the explanation.
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